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Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:14 pm

mike-s wrote:shit dude, sounds a horrible state to be in. I live near central sydney, if there's anything that i can do to help, let me know. I'll be out of a job by the end of the week, so may have some time to do something next week if needed ;-)

had any study in law mike??

kill 2 birds with 1 stone...

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:18 pm

jmuzz wrote:You shouldnt be relying on the internet for this sort of advice.

If your lawyer isnt telling you this stuff about the speed being ridiculous and you have to come to the internet for advice then he is a shit lawyer and you need a better one asap!


Personally, I wouldn't expect any lawyer to know off the top of his head that a GPX250 is inacapable of speeds in excess of 160kph...

Lawyers are guided devices; they have only minimal roving intelligence. They exist for the purpose of taking what you want to defend yourself with and packaging it in a way that causes the magistrate to find you not guilty.

In this case, what the lawyer needs to package is, "My bike won't go as fast as they say I was going. Now get me off."

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:23 pm

87Ninja wrote:im in the middle of finding out if i can get home detention, just had an interview with one of the officers about it and they THINK they may let me do it evan though i work on a licenced premises(fingers crossed)


Does someone have to ride up to Newcastle and beat you over the head with a stock exhaust pipe in order to knock some sense into you?

Haven't you been listening?

You stand a good chance of getting off.

Understand?

Off.

No fine.

No loss of license.

Cops pay court costs and at least a portion of your legal bill.

NOTHING!!!

Why are you in such a hurry to let them fuck you up the arse? Seriously?

Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:43 pm

6 pages I was going to read them all.

Only 2 places I know of with Dyno`s in NEwcastle are Greame Morris (Cameron Street Broadmeadow) and Bikecare (Rear of 146 park ave Kotara).

Just remember no licence doesnt stop you riding just stops you riding on the road :wink: Always track days if you can get there,heap of diffrent bikes there

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:19 pm

I-K wrote:Haven't you been listening?


Don't worry Icky, I can't work him out either. Why the feck would you bother trying to organise Home-D when you haven't even been sentenced yet?

Or did I miss something?

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:23 pm

Dude if i was you i would fight it. They have been wrong before! At least try if you end up with a lesser sentance it is still better than what you are currently facing. Some mags even have adds for legal representation from lewers that do acualy ride (even if they are Harleys).

good luck

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:27 pm

aardvark wrote:
I-K wrote:Haven't you been listening?


Don't worry Icky, I can't work him out either. Why the feck would you bother trying to organise Home-D when you haven't even been sentenced yet?

Or did I miss something?

he is just trying to know what his options are as he has been told he cant do home detention due to his employment in a licenced premisis.

he wants to know all his options so he can prepare himself and family for what may happen.

trust me he is looking into getting the bike dyno'd and legal issues.

he just doesnt want to be given a sentence and not know whats happening.
also alot of testing and interviewing needs to happen for HD, as it isnt just handed out, and these need to be completed and handed to the judge prior to scentencing, if they are ultimately required or not. the judge is unable to scentence HD to then find out he is not eligable.

Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:33 pm

kellz wrote:
aardvark wrote:
I-K wrote:Haven't you been listening?


Don't worry Icky, I can't work him out either. Why the feck would you bother trying to organise Home-D when you haven't even been sentenced yet?

Or did I miss something?

he is just trying to know what his options are as he has been told he cant do home detention due to his employment in a licenced premisis.

he wants to know all his options so he can prepare himself and family for what may happen.

trust me he is looking into getting the bike dyno'd and legal issues.

he just doesnt want to be given a sentence and not know whats happening.
also alot of testing and interviewing needs to happen for HD, as it isnt just handed out, and these need to be completed and handed to the judge prior to scentencing, if they are ultimately required or not. the judge is unable to scentence HD to then find out he is not eligable.


Thanks Kels that has hit the nail rite on the head, dont get me wrong guys i am fighting it,ive already mentioned to my solicitor about my bike not being able to go that fast and what not, and he is looking into things aswell for me, but if things do go wrong and the dyno proof gets thrown out of court for some stupid reason ill have HD to fall back on instead of a full time Goal term... That isthe only reason im doing this stuff to see if i can still get HD

Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:26 pm

kellz wrote: so he can prepare himself and family for what may happen.

also alot of testing and interviewing needs to happen for HD, .


want me to come round & help u bury the guns & dismantle the drug lab before they get there??

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:42 am

87Ninja wrote:Thanks Kels that has hit the nail rite on the head, dont get me wrong guys i am fighting it,ive already mentioned to my solicitor about my bike not being able to go that fast and what not, and he is looking into things aswell for me, but if things do go wrong and the dyno proof gets thrown out of court for some stupid reason ill have HD to fall back on instead of a full time Goal term... That isthe only reason im doing this stuff to see if i can still get HD
Could always get a stat. dec to accompany the dyno sheet stating that the bike has not been modified over the time period of the incident and up until the dyno ... i presume the lawyer will mention this to you if they think it'll help. Keep us updated as to what happens !

Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:58 am

aardvark wrote:Not usually the one to throw a spanner in the works ( :wink: ), but how are you going to prove you haven't modified the bike betwen the offence date and the date you get it dynoed?


I think it would be relatively easy to prove that the bike even in highly modified form could not be capable of 180k's :lol: Imagine someone spending large on a set of hot cams, high comp pistons, titanium valves, knife edged crank and titanium race exhaust on a GPX250 :lol:

Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:34 pm

Strika wrote:
aardvark wrote:Not usually the one to throw a spanner in the works ( :wink: ), but how are you going to prove you haven't modified the bike betwen the offence date and the date you get it dynoed?


I think it would be relatively easy to prove that the bike even in highly modified form could not be capable of 180k's :lol: Imagine someone spending large on a set of hot cams, high comp pistons, titanium valves, knife edged crank and titanium race exhaust on a GPX250 :lol:


and then undoing it all again prior to getting it dyno'd :shock:

Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:41 pm

87Ninja wrote: That isthe only reason im doing this stuff to see if i can still get HD


Fair enough, but our point is....

You are unlikely to get a jail term OR HD at all!!

I mean, scum bags that steal cars and break into homes don't get jail time or HD these days, so the chance of you getting it for speeding is next to nothing.

Unless you've been caught driving/riding whilst disqualified, speeding etc a heap in the past?

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:20 pm

robracer wrote:what a hero.......


Dispising da fuckin piglets does not make one a hero


Stereo wrote:I can see kishy ending up like one of those videos you see on TV.... "Oh no, Hes coming up to an intersection and hes not slowing down... I CANT BELEIVE IT he is speeding up! He is going to make it! oh no....... no no...... this is bad... Im going to be sick..."


Nah bro.

Only had 3 in 18mths & all lasted less than a coupla mins. The last time,
6 of us were spread across 3 lanes doing standup wheelies when the pigs
appeared right behind us so this has been the only occassion a chase
has lasted longer than usual.

Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:24 pm

Kishy wrote:
robracer wrote:what a hero.......


Dispising da fuckin piglets does not make one a hero


Stereo wrote:I can see kishy ending up like one of those videos you see on TV.... "Oh no, Hes coming up to an intersection and hes not slowing down... I CANT BELEIVE IT he is speeding up! He is going to make it! oh no....... no no...... this is bad... Im going to be sick..."


Nah bro.

Only had 3 in 18mths & all lasted less than a coupla mins. The last time,
6 of us were spread across 3 lanes doing standup wheelies when the pigs
appeared right behind us so this has been the only occassion a chase
has lasted longer than usual.


pics or it didnt happen :P
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