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zx 9/12r Motor

Postby zedx » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:30 pm

Hey. Can anyone help me, I am looking to put a zx12r motor in a zx9r frame and I am wondering whether it is possible. Any comments or website links would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Postby Smitty » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:12 pm

GOTTA LUV the 12R!!
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Postby Gosling1 » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:27 pm

I think it would be a hell of an expensive transplant..........they are *totally* different design frames.......

good luck

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Postby Smitty » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:02 pm

Gosling1 wrote:I think it would be a hell of an expensive transplant..........they are *totally* different design frames.......

good luck

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I remember reading that.....
the 12's original frame design was done using a 9r engine
and the 12R engine started out on the drawing board
....as a bored out 9R :twisted:

so maybe not so hard
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Postby 99coconuts » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:29 pm

NFI, but do let me know what you''re doing with the 9r motor if it ends up hapenning mate :D :D
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Postby Gosling1 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:46 pm

Smitty wrote:....Gos...lil' secret courtesy of the 'silver' book
I remember reading that.....the 12's original frame design was done using a 9r engine....and the 12R engine started out on the drawing board
....as a bored out 9R :twisted: so maybe not so hard


hmmm, maybe there *is* something in that.....see, thats what happens when you don't have the damn book !!!! :lol: :lol:

It would be a *hell* of a hybrid.......I don't think a stock 9R frame would cope with the HP of a 12, but of course you can always brace them.....

hmmmmmmm :? :?

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Postby Smitty » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:01 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
It would be a *hell* of a hybrid.......I don't think a stock 9R frame would cope with the HP of a 12, but of course you can always brace them.....

hmmmmmmm :? :?

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as the book sez
soon as they stuck the proper 12r engine in the frame..blah
so
the 'trial' monocoque frame got re-done..to what we know today
is in the 12
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Postby Nanna10r » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:15 pm

Top idea but .... dont you have to remove the tacho n the rear brake caliper (and everything plastic,metal,rubber & liquid inbetween) to change the spark plugs in the 12r now ?.
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Postby SocialSecurity » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:49 am

yeah completely different frame design... 12R goes over the engine, 9R goes around the engine

but hey nothings 'impossible' :wink:
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Postby smek » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:07 am

what about if you put the motor in a trailer and towed it behind the bike :D
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Postby I-K » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:12 pm

SocialSecurity wrote:yeah completely different frame design... 12R goes over the engine, 9R goes around the engine


The engines mount up the same way, though; top and bottom bolts across the back of the gearbox and a bolt on each side at the back of the head.

I sincerely doubt that a 12 head would fit between the 9 frame rails, though. The 12 is a significantly bigger engine.
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Postby SocialSecurity » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:16 pm

yeah by that i meant "if the engine is too big to put a frame around, how will it shoehorn into a little tiny 9R frame" :wink:
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Postby I-K » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:16 pm

SocialSecurity wrote:yeah by that i meant "if the engine is too big to put a frame around,


It's not, though. The Busa and the ZZ-R11/1200 engines are both bigger than the ZX12 unit, yet they both run conventional dual-beam frames.

The ZX12 doesn't run that monocoque frame because the size of its engine made using a conventional wraparound dual-beam frame unfeasible.
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Postby Strika » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:23 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Smitty wrote:....Gos...lil' secret courtesy of the 'silver' book
I remember reading that.....the 12's original frame design was done using a 9r engine....and the 12R engine started out on the drawing board
....as a bored out 9R :twisted: so maybe not so hard


hmmm, maybe there *is* something in that.....see, thats what happens when you don't have the damn book !!!! :lol: :lol:

It would be a *hell* of a hybrid.......I don't think a stock 9R frame would cope with the HP of a 12, but of course you can always brace them.....

hmmmmmmm :? :?

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Thanks for the feedback

Postby zedx » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:09 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Has given me something to think about when it comes to attempting to transfer the motor into my frame.
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