zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

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zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby matchan » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:55 pm

Hi all,

Just reading July Performance Bikes review on the new zx6rr and in a sidebar story they reckon that the zxr750 & zx7r from 1989 up to 2003 had a slipper clutch which apparently was adjusted to have so little affect that you couldn't notice, this was the forerunner to the current item in the zx6rr & zx10r.

1989 seems a long time ago for a production bike to have something still considered fairly exotic.

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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby Nanna10r » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:01 pm

That sounds pretty sus .... like
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Why on earth would you put in a new dodgy technology and then make it obsolete ?.
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Postby Neka79 » Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:43 pm

Pontikat wrote: Think they are doing a "my Dad was drunk before your Dad"
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sounds like there not a member of KSRC, otherwise it would be "my dad was drunk WITH ur dad..and then out rode him"...lol...at leats its an analagy we can all understand here in ksrc??
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Re: re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby matchan » Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:42 am

Pontikat wrote:That sounds pretty sus .... l


could be although it came across as the opinion of the magazine rather than marketing info from kawasaki (this doesn't make it true of course). They actually referred to it as a "back torque limiter".

It goes on to say that the race manual, whatever that is, shows how to set it up for "race conditions", any zx7r owners have any info or know one way or the other ?

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Postby Phil » Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:03 am

i think you'll find that it was not the "street version" of these bikes but the limited edition used for racing, ie the zxr750r and zx7rr.

these bikes came with flatslides, close ratio gearbox's etc oh and the sexy single seat.....

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/webzxr/zxr ... story.html

information on the history can be found here, check the full specs for the mention on the slipper or back torque limter clutch

also, both Ian and Tim will be crowing about the gpx being the "big daddy" of the zxr750 and zx7r

BTW how farkin good does thet 93-94, green red and white one look, thats my favorite paint job on one of my favorite all time bikes.
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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby matchan » Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:04 am

Thanks Phil, good info. Now that you've said it it makes sense it would only be the homologation models for racing.

I was always partial to the zxr750 but never had one, the blue/green/white striped one and the black one with blue/pink were great colour schemes (imho).

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Postby mfzx6r » Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:53 am

I had the Black zxr750 L1.
As Phil said the zxr750r & zx7rr were the race models



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Postby Smitty » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:09 am

Phil wrote:also, both Ian and Tim will be crowing about the gpx being the "big daddy" of the zxr750 and zx7r.


too bloody right........
and that webpage ..proves it....
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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby Phil » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:15 am

tim also had a "h" model zxr as well........... 8)
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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby mrmina » Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:43 pm

i've got a 97 ZX7R and if i knew what a slipper clutch was i'll let you know if i had one :!: :!:
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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby Wannabe » Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:55 pm

Actually they all have slipper-clutches as standard ... all models from 1989 right through to the current ZX7R, not just the R/RR race versions.

More info can be found on this site http://homepage.ntlworld.com/webzxr/zxr750r/index.html (as listed earlier in this thread) but you need to click on Tech Tips on the menu and slipper clutches is right at the top. Click on the link to read about how to 'activate' the slipper clutch.

This site is a gold-mine of info, some of which is useful for other Kwaka's too. I only found it recently but is so good it almost makes me want to get a ZX7 :twisted:
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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby Nanna10r » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:48 pm

Well "Tickle Me Arse With a Feather" oops even.
Still think its Wanky to fit something and turn it off.
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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby matchan » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:23 pm

well, I'll be stuffed, there ya go..

Like Brett, buggered if I know why they would fit it and turn it off, was it not considered race technology in those days ?


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re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby James » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:27 pm

Perhaps I read the article wrong or am missing the point, but what did Kawasaki actually fit to make it a slipper clutch? Didnt the bloke just install some thinner steel plates and racing springs to 'activate' the slipper clutch? If so, cant this be done to any clutch? or is there some mechanism on the ZX7, ZX6 & ZX10 clutch that I dont have on mine?
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Re: re: zxr750 & zx7r had a slipper clutch ?

Postby matchan » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:38 pm

James wrote:Perhaps I read the article wrong or am missing the point, but what did Kawasaki actually fit to make it a slipper clutch? Didnt the bloke just install some thinner steel plates and racing springs to 'activate' the slipper clutch? If so, cant this be done to any clutch? or is there some mechanism on the ZX7, ZX6 & ZX10 clutch that I dont have on mine?


From a quick reading of the article at the bottom of the page, they are different, if you just used thinner plates it would slip in both directions, under heavy load from the engine or through the wheel, if you fitted the stiffer race springs, you'd just be back to where you were with the original plates.... I think.

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