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OK guys, I need a bit of advice here..
I need to upgrade my PC and am looking for a good deal. Its mainly used for 2d CAD work and surfing the net, so I don't need anything too exy..

I was looking at something like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-INTEL-Core2D ... dZViewItem

Suggest keeping an eye out here:
http://www.graysonline.com.au/
They sell a truck load of pc's dirt cheap daily(I've brought 2)
Most will be sold from there & pumped back through Fleabay.

get one built from a dodgy looking computer place.

there is a computer place that look ok in windsor, main street, up the road from retravision on the corner. he has a few deals going

'Do you have the time/inclination to build it yourself?

daffy67 wrote:'Do you have the time/inclination to build it yourself?

Not really, I had enough trouble with a zxr750...

The price on the one on ebay looked OK.. better than anything dell or others have atm..?

Dell had a 1.8Ghz C2D on special last week for $799 with a 19"LCD.
Someone here at work bought one upgraded with 2GB RAM/ 22" lCD instead, came in just over $1000.

Email Dan & get him to build it to your specs mate.......you could pick it up at the supers

Dan seems a little pre occupied atm..

From ebay these are about the best I can find,
Any thoughts on the processor & hdd value..???

Intel e4500, 19" screen, 160g hdd - $749 (del)
Intel e2180, 19" screen, 160g hdd - $699 (del)
Intel e2180, 19" screen, 320g hdd - $714 (del)
Intel e2160, 19" screen, 160g hdd - $679 (del)
Intel e2160, 19" screen, 320g hdd - $694 (del)

The rest of the specs are about the same.. 2gb ram, 20 speed burners etc..

Theres also the amd 4000 chip, but I've been told the intel is better. any thoughts.?

Mate go Dell, Im more than happy with the quality of my laptop. Quick delivery, warranty, they were cheaper than the shops etc.

My dad had a super powerfull desktop built by some computer shop at North Rocks for a grand, and it's farked, always in for some issue or another, stick with a recognised brand is my recommendation. He's on his 3rd Hard drive in 18 months.

I run Vista, but most people have XP still, plus it's cheaper, although the security in Vista is pretty good though, it's always blocking dodgy shit, like Neka's posts

I think you can just buy the tower and save $$..but then again they do have a 24inch monitor option !

Getting the bits from MSY i can put something together equivalent to the benq one (substituting some half decent stuff when i cant find equivalents). Also prices taken from here as of 5 mins ago, so feel free to mix & match

processor: Intel E4500 cpu $146 (AMD 4400+ $92 )
Memory: 2gb Ram 800 (Apacer) $50
Hard drive: 160Gb MaxtorSATA $58
DVD Drive: IDE Aopen DL DVD-RW $35
Motherboard: ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 $61 (video lan sound onboard, though another vid card can be put in if desired ), ASUS M2N-MX SE $59
keyboard/mouse Ritmo PS2 Slim Multi-Media Keyboard + Mouse $12
Case: Gigabyte Poseidon case $115 (picture
PSU: SHAW 720W (Dual Fan) Max. $25
Monitor:19” 5ms DVI Benq G900W-B / LG L194WTS $224
=726

Also O/S wise, if you want to buy a new copy of the OS *ahem*
*OEM Microsoft 32bit Win XP Home / XP Pro $107/$175
*OEM MS 32 bit Vista Home Basic / Home Premium 107/139

Plus $50 for me to put it together

pm me if you're interested as they're local to me (ultimo and Auburn)

mikes-s option is good, i wonder if he is up for tech support if something flunks
I've always built my own, and hated saying 'buy from Dell' etc, but the fact is you have more fall back for warranty problems with a bigger comapny, your local pc shop may not be there tomorrow.
Sure MSY etc have there place, but most folks just want a pc that works, and this is where Dell, HN etc sell to.
Dell make bucket loads in the corporate sector too (we use them at work, as do many places).

daffy67 wrote:mikes-s option is good, i wonder if he is up for tech support if something flunks
I've always built my own, and hated saying 'buy from Dell' etc, but the fact is you have more fall back for warranty problems with a bigger comapny, your local pc shop may not be there tomorrow.
Sure MSY etc have there place, but most folks just want a pc that works, and this is where Dell, HN etc sell to.
Dell make bucket loads in the corporate sector too (we use them at work, as do many places).

I was under the impression that dell used cheep components, info came from a tec

I've heard some people bitch about cheap components in dell's, then again ive bought individual otherboards that were the nastiest peices of crap out there. But havent had that in a while as i pretty much stick to gigabyte / asus and haven't had a lemon from either of them yet.

regarding MSY they are ok, but you need to be aware what bits have failed, and get an RMA authorisation number from them before you can bring it back. or you could get them to build it for you. Personally i think the advantage of a white box system is you know exactly what goes into the thing.

robracer wrote:

daffy67 wrote:mikes-s option is good, i wonder if he is up for tech support if something flunks
I've always built my own, and hated saying 'buy from Dell' etc, but the fact is you have more fall back for warranty problems with a bigger comapny, your local pc shop may not be there tomorrow.
Sure MSY etc have there place, but most folks just want a pc that works, and this is where Dell, HN etc sell to.
Dell make bucket loads in the corporate sector too (we use them at work, as do many places).

I was under the impression that dell used cheep components, info came from a tec

They may, i can't comment on that.
A lot of pc parts are made in china anyway, Dell does get a lot of there stuff direct from China.

I always build my own.

Having said that, we use Dell and Lenovo at work. I've had experience with Dell, HP, Acer, IBM/Lenovo and white boxes. Dells are the easiest to support. Their support and warranty service is the best of the bunch, followed by Lenovo.