Body steering does not work!

[Jonno]

Interesting subject as I have seen many people who try it and tell me it works, well this link will dispell that myth once and for all.

This article is by well known and restpected rider and writter Keith Code

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Information%20Pages/Keith%20Code%20Riding%20Technique1.htm

Don't confuse body steering with shifting weight on corners, when you see riders hanging off the side of a bike in a corner it basically allows the bike to be more upright as they come out of the corner so you can get more power on more quickly.

[Ment]

Great post mate.

[dave#3]

Click here for the 'No BS Bike' in action

You poor suckers on dial-up can d/load a zipped version of it (2.18 Mb) from here

[Smitty]

top article

and for more by Keith Code
everything from braking to whatever ...

go here-
http://www.superbikeschool.com/bbs/inde ... ct=SF&f=11


ciao

[Yankee]

Just found this gem (with some help )

AWESOME STUFF... almost unbelievable until you "see" it. You do it unconsciencely (sp!), but good to understand... "THE WHY"!!!!

[Glen]

Good find Scotty.

What tends to happen is that everything you do on your bike to make it steer ususally results in you countersteering. Eg when you shift your weight to the inside you put pressure on the inside bar and hey presto you've just countersteered. The majority of people don't realise this and think that by moving around they are making it steer.

Good stuff

[Jonno]

Just found this gem (with some help )

AWESOME STUFF... almost unbelievable until you "see" it. You do it unconsciencely (sp!), but good to understand... "THE WHY"!!!!

hehe, I thought you would enjoy it Marty, anyway it prolly is a good idea to bump this up again after 4 months.

[NovaCoder]

What a load of rubbish

I steer by weighting my foot-pegs (as do most other riders on this site)

[Stereo]

Keith code rocks....... I got one of his books given to me... from memory it was called "The art of road racing"...

Even as an experienced rider I still learned a lot.... He explains things very well...

Never even thought about body steering.... I just get on and ride, Ive never tried to over analyse it...

I have noticed that people that try to over analyse tend to have trouble riding...

[Glen]

What a load of rubbish

I steer by weighting my foot-pegs (as do most other riders on this site)

Nova

That's what you think you do and granted by tilting it over it will steer slightly as they point out in the article. Unless you countersteer though it ain't going to turn much. The thing with countersteering is that most don't realise they are doing it, but trust me you are. Even if you try and intiate a lean by swinging the bars from side to side, the input to the bars is going to provide a countesteering effect.

Cheers

[samhasa636]

What a load of rubbish

I steer by weighting my foot-pegs (as do most other riders on this site)

Nova

That's what you think you do and granted by tilting it over it will steer slightly as they point out in the article. Unless you countersteer though it ain't going to turn much. The thing with countersteering is that most don't realise they are doing it, but trust me you are. Even if you try and intiate a lean by swinging the bars from side to side, the input to the bars is going to provide a countesteering effect.

Cheers

I believe, and hope, Nova was having a laugh.

[Jonno]

Glen,
he is winding you up m8..

[Stereo]

What a load of rubbish

I steer by weighting my foot-pegs (as do most other riders on this site)

Nova

That's what you think you do and granted by tilting it over it will steer slightly as they point out in the article. Unless you countersteer though it ain't going to turn much. The thing with countersteering is that most don't realise they are doing it, but trust me you are. Even if you try and intiate a lean by swinging the bars from side to side, the input to the bars is going to provide a countesteering effect.

Cheers

I think Nova was being sarcastic...

[ty]

I have noticed that people that try to over analyse tend to have trouble riding...

Yes and no - over-analysing can be detrimental, however analysing to the point of understanding will normally be beneficial.
For example I always counter-steered without realising it and could ride the old GPX reasonably well, but once counter-steering became clear and I became aware of it my riding entered a whole new level.
As with you, reading Keith Code helped alot in that respect.
ty

[mfzx6r]

I always counter-steered without realising it and could ride the old GPX reasonably well, but once counter-steering became clear and I became aware of it my riding entered a whole new level.

ty

The "Force" is strong in this one




mario