that 1st gear clunk

[Nanna10r]

Sorry for the double post had to put some dinner back "eyes are bigger then my body".
I just read the posts again n now see what Yoda's saying. So if i turn the bike OFF the input shaft stops spinning and it wont clunk yes ?. But also wont engage as well casue its not being mechanically engaged(centrifical forces & so on). Inversly wont holding the clutch in longer to reduce the Clunk increase Clutch wear ?.
Cheers Brett

[mattyv74]

Your reputation precedes you & appears well earnt oh great one YODA. :

Oh please....

[mrmina]

i thought most of the bikes had cluncky gearboxes.

supposedily the new R6 clunk can be heard loudly

[mattyv74]

So if i turn the bike OFF the input shaft stops spinning and it wont clunk yes ?. But also wont engage.....wont holding the clutch in longer to reduce the Clunk increase Clutch wear ?

The gears will engage without the engine running, but the gears need to have stopped in a nearly lined up position. If it won't go in, a small rock forward will line it up well enough. Also, different pitch gears will drop into gear better than others.

Wear on the clutch is minimal. The oil is creating drag between the plates, not surface friction.

[Flakey]

I've got a couple of steep hills that I roll down in slow moving traffic on the way to and from work. I usually pop it into neutral and roll down them 'cause I can't be bothered holding the clutch in for 5 minutes straight. What I do find though is that when I am rolling slowly then pull the clutch in and pop it into first it is as smooth as silk, no clunk at all.

Neutral is called 'angel' gear for a reason... Good way to lose control. Much safer in the right gear with the clutch in while moving.

[MickLC]

Neutral is called 'angel' gear for a reason... Good way to lose control. Much safer in the right gear with the clutch in while moving.

Yeah but we're talking about walking pace at the fastest here, and I pop it into gear when the traffic comes to a stop. I really don't want to hold onto the clutch for that long else my hand doesn't work properly when I need it to...I know I've tried it

[Smitty]

Wot Free Lunch again ???? . ..snip...
Cheers Brett.
Be back for supper again later, thanks.

Brett
you have a major appetite issue...for a lil' bloke

[Smitty]

Wear on the clutch is minimal. The oil is creating drag between the plates, not surface friction.

yep correct
and the bikes with dry (not in oil) clutches that I have ridden
..like a Duc916..don't have this issue with gear selection

they certainly have other issues, the last ducati I rode did

[Smitty]

hth = hope this helps

or..hope that helps (as some say)
thanks ty

and
a few others for those not used to 'em-
imo = in my opinion
imho = in my humble opinion
rofl = roll on floor laffing
roflmao = roll on floor laffing my arse off...

and its interesting to see that a few of the posters
are adopting their own shorthand
as in neka (who always has) and I see Pontikat doing it too
sweet

cheers

[Neka79]

yea...wanna had a decent post, and was starting to sound like yoda..till
yoda piped up with a "yeah i agree"...lol..i agree too, does that make me
smart?? or just lazy??
Neka
2000 CBR 929RR
1988 KDX200 thrasher
1996 VS SERIES 2 UTE
"dont hate me cos im sexy, hate me cos ur mrs thinks im sexy"



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[Neka79]

jst fr a bt f fn i smtms lv t vwls 2 (just for a bit of fun i sumtimes leave
out vowels too)
Neka
2000 CBR 929RR
1988 KDX200 thrasher
1996 VS SERIES 2 UTE
"dont hate me cos im sexy, hate me cos ur mrs thinks im sexy"
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[Wannabe]

... wont holding the clutch in longer to reduce the Clunk increase Clutch wear ?.

When you are holding the clutch in, there is no clutch wear as the drive plates & friction plates have been disengaged & are rotating separately with oil between them. Same as when the clutch is out and therefore fully engaged (both sets of plates are rotating as one unit).
The clutch plates only wear as you are pulling the clutch in (a little bit) and letting the clutch out to take off (more). Hard take-offs/red-light drag races cause the most wear to your clutch.

[mrmina]

yea...wanna had a decent post, and was starting to sound like yoda..till
yoda piped up with a "yeah i agree"...lol..i agree too, does that make me
smart?? or just lazy??
Neka
2000 CBR 929RR
1988 KDX200 thrasher
1996 VS SERIES 2 UTE
"dont hate me cos im sexy, hate me cos ur mrs thinks im sexy"



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dont get ur hopes up on the smart part of that question

[Nanna10r]

Fair Nuff Wanna makes sence ..... now thanks for that. I tried it tonight on the Tiggr held the clutch in for like a minute light turned green tried to put it in gear.....um .... tried to put it gear........ bugger....... tried a 3rd time ... doughy feeling so nope ..... let clutch out pull it back in ...select gear ..... "CLUNK" .
Was laughing so hard I fogged up my Lid.
Cheers Brett

[Wannabe]

Well at least you got a good laugh out of it
What happened there Brett was that you held the clutch in for so long that the gearbox shafts stopped spinning altogether and they didn't stop perfectly lined up for you to select the gear (as per Yodas post).
You have 3 options when this happens:
1. Hold the gear lever down and slowly let the clutch out. This will engage the gear (will usually make the clunk noise anyway)
2. Hold the gear lever down and rock the bike back & forth slightly (which in turn rotates the gears and thus will help it all line up) until the gear engages
Or 3. Do what you did - let the clutch out and then pull it back & in and select the gear (which as you found out makes the clunk noise again. Mainly because you now don't have the time to hold the clutch in before you select a gear due to the traffic backed up behind you LYAO (laffin your ass off)

What I actually recommend is that you don't hold the clutch in for quite so long. About 4-6 seconds is usually sufficient. But if you ever get the case that it won't go into gear, I use method 1 as it is the quickest.

Cheers -Tony