I love her but...

I know this is going to produce howls from the others, but have you considered any of the cruisers?

Doesn't sound like you ride 10/10ths, fang hard etc, (I may be wrong of course) so a cruiser may provide all the power that you need, and you're confidence will definitely increase if you're not having to worry about 'handling' the size of the bike.

As I have mentioned a few times now, it is not the riding I am concerned about, it is the weight of the bike and being able to move it around physically...

Stu, I already have a rack, thanks

That's actually what I meant, the cruiers have a lower overall height, which means that you are more likely to be standing over the bike rather than just next to it, making them easier for you to move around, on foot that is.

The confidence boost to your riding will come from the fact that you don't have to concern yourself with where you're going to park etc when you get to/depart your destination, you just have to concentrate on your riding. Knowing that you can put your foot down, under any circumstances, such as oily road etc, will be an improvement (anyone ever seen a non-drunk Harley rider fall over at the lights? they don't because they can plant their foot on the road more solidly than the sports bike riders can).

And PLEASE If you are still having cornering concerns after 33,000 km, go and do intermediate and advanced riding courses. If you're not getting the most out of cornering on the ZZR, then you are short-changing yourself on the pleasures of your current bike.

Stu, I already have a rack, thanks

Cool now all you need is a big black 12er between ya legs

I know this is going to produce howls from the others, but have you considered any of the cruisers?

Doesn't sound like you ride 10/10ths, fang hard etc, (I may be wrong of course) so a cruiser may provide all the power that you need, and you're confidence will definitely increase if you're not having to worry about 'handling' the size of the bike.

As I have mentioned a few times now, it is not the riding I am concerned about, it is the weight of the bike and being able to move it around physically...

Stu, I already have a rack, thanks

That's actually what I meant, the cruiers have a lower overall height, which means that you are more likely to be standing over the bike rather than just next to it, making them easier for you to move around, on foot that is.

The confidence boost to your riding will come from the fact that you don't have to concern yourself with where you're going to park etc when you get to/depart your destination, you just have to concentrate on your riding. Knowing that you can put your foot down, under any circumstances, such as oily road etc, will be an improvement (anyone ever seen a non-drunk Harley rider fall over at the lights? they don't because they can plant their foot on the road more solidly than the sports bike riders can).

And PLEASE If you are still having cornering concerns after 33,000 km, go and do intermediate and advanced riding courses. If you're not getting the most out of cornering on the ZZR, then you are short-changing yourself on the pleasures of your current bike.

OK, I understand and appreciate the advice, but I don't think a cruiser is the way I want to go.

(As for the cornering after 33,000k, that was someone else's comment).

Stu, I already have a rack, thanks

Cool now all you need is a big black 12er between ya legs

Hahahaha! Now Stu, you KNOW I'm not gonna go there

Oh Man pheeww!!

I know this is going to produce howls from the others, but have you considered any of the cruisers?

Doesn't sound like you ride 10/10ths, fang hard etc, (I may be wrong of course) so a cruiser may provide all the power that you need, and you're confidence will definitely increase if you're not having to worry about 'handling' the size of the bike.

As I have mentioned a few times now, it is not the riding I am concerned about, it is the weight of the bike and being able to move it around physically...

Stu, I already have a rack, thanks

That's actually what I meant, the cruiers have a lower overall height, which means that you are more likely to be standing over the bike rather than just next to it, making them easier for you to move around, on foot that is.

The confidence boost to your riding will come from the fact that you don't have to concern yourself with where you're going to park etc when you get to/depart your destination, you just have to concentrate on your riding. Knowing that you can put your foot down, under any circumstances, such as oily road etc, will be an improvement (anyone ever seen a non-drunk Harley rider fall over at the lights? they don't because they can plant their foot on the road more solidly than the sports bike riders can).

And PLEASE If you are still having cornering concerns after 33,000 km, go and do intermediate and advanced riding courses. If you're not getting the most out of cornering on the ZZR, then you are short-changing yourself on the pleasures of your current bike.

OK, I understand and appreciate the advice, but I don't think a cruiser is the way I want to go.

(As for the cornering after 33,000k, that was someone else's comment).

Sorry for that one, should take note of the handles more .

OK, I understand and appreciate the advice, but I don't think a cruiser is the way I want to go.

That's a last resort in my book and a decision not to be taken lightly. They are all heavy ugly bastards as well (the cruisers that is).

OK, I understand and appreciate the advice, but I don't think a cruiser is the way I want to go.

That's a last resort in my book and a decision not to be taken lightly. They are all heavy ugly bastards as well (the cruisers that is).

Yeah, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder


And these days there is just no accounting for some people's taste is there?

Yeah, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder

And these days there is just no accounting for some people's taste is there?

Yeah, I suppose that why Harley Davidson still has a market amongst the stockbroker and accountant 1%er set.

How do the height-challenged members move their bikes when they are off them?

Do you grab the handle bars while trying to lean over the bike, and push with you're body away from the bike? ie facing bike with bum pointing away. Very similar to the way you move a pushbike around.

OR

Do you grab the handle bars, and place you're hip into the tank/seat area, such that you are virtually facing to the front of the bike, bum tucked in? with bike at slight lean towards yourself.

The second method is the preferred, and more stable, method. The first requires a fair amount of strength and leverage height.

neither...i use the one hand on the seat, one hand on the bar technique ussually..if i have to put sum weight into it i drop the bike against the hip and roll it that way....

um remeber im only 5'8 myself & built like a broomstick, but i manage...i figure if u really wanna ride, ull do woteva it takes!!

I'm only 5'9" myself, so you're not much shorter than myself, and I have no problems.

The problems are for those with Duck's disease who are at a significant leverage disadvantage.

Try moving a bike like a Z1300, or a raised GSX1100 the way you mention, and you'll see how quickly the bike becomes unstable.
There is also a strength requirement, and a slim build can belie a fair amount of strength, which some of the female members may not be able to match.

But if the bike is on any sort of incline/dodgy surface you'll want access to the brake, which is on the other handle bar, and not quickly accessible if your hand is at the other end of the bike.


You're right if someone wants to do it, they just will, a little bit of advice can be handy for those who don't yet know though.

havent sat on one but apparently the ER6N seat height and weight would suit.

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Hmm, thats a BIT too low a low rider. Somehow i dont think Colette or Mick suffer from ducks disease quite that badly, but on the other hand, i dont think they have gorilla arms either.

I'm 5ft7-5ft8 (well 173cm) and am able to push the GPX (a.k.a. the GPX125r thanks to Dave #3 ) around quite alright, Cath seemed to be able to tippy toe around on the GPX semi comfortably too.

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AAAARRRGHHHHH my EYES !!!! what the F$#K is that piece of hideous crap ???????? hang on I can just make it out on the engine cover........its a ........Team Soichiro

can you imagine how *stable* that shitbox would feel at low speed ????? and the handlears have not changed a bit ?? You would need double-jointed elbows, and arms like Inspector Gadget

"No problems Sir, just put your Elbows out......." brrrrr

actually back when Eddie Lawson was racing, he tested a Yammie that some US nutters designed, it was *meant* to be a GP contender, and it didn't look too dissimiliar to that blue monstrosity.