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Postby tape » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:03 pm

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Postby the kid » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:03 pm

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Btw, anyone else find it worth a giggle that a guy going by the name of Lucas is dropping wisdom on the subject of bike electrics? ;)[/quote]

HeHeHe , didn't see it before , but I have owned an older Bonneville and I have met the Prince of Darkness :lol: Also met Lucas at WackF#@k and down the island , I see the resemblence :twisted:

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Postby Gosling1 » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:37 pm

diesel wrote:hey smek,
bring her over to my joint, i've got everything there.

and dave,
is the kill switch a common problem on all bikes??
is it worth servicing it now rather than when it stops working?


The kill switch can be an issue on a lot of bikes. Especially those bikes where the owner insists on using the ignition key to turn the bike off !@!!

The purpose of a kill switch is to interupt the power supply ( +12v) to the coils. This will ensure that your engine cuts out dead, as it should.

Sure, ignition switches will also do this, but they are designed to provide power to all other circuits - continued use of the ignition key to turn the bike off will *almost* guarantee problems down the road.

All they generally need is a quick spray with wizards piss. Thats it. Not a lot of work for piece of mind.

I-K wrote: a better idea is not to touch it; turn the ignition on and off with the key, not the killswitch


Nonsense. The killswitch should always be used to turn your bike off. If they weren't required or needed for a purpose, then why would they be fitted ?? This is the reason most killswitches fuck out........because people use the ignition key instead, the killswitch then develops *issues* through lack of use ( like rust and corrosion, however small), and because the killswitch is an integral part of the ignition coil circuit, VOILA, you have misfiring/poor running/NO running problems.

Use The Killswitch Vince, It Is Your Friend

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Postby I-K » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:26 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
I-K wrote: a better idea is not to touch it; turn the ignition on and off with the key, not the killswitch

Nonsense. The killswitch should always be used to turn your bike off.


Oh, man, here we go. Bigendians vs littlendians, take 46...

If they weren't required or needed for a purpose, then why would they be fitted??


The reason they gave when I went to n00b school was that the killswitch is a safety device, used to cut spark to the engine in an emergency without taking either hand off the bars.

This is the reason most killswitches fuck out........because people use the ignition key instead, the killswitch then develops *issues* through lack of use


...and then you have the old wives' tale I heard ahead of all the others; that killswitches fail through *over*use. Leave them in one position, on, and you minimise trouble-causing wear.

The only bike I ever had killswitch trouble with was the GPz500S I used to courier on. Went shopping for a replacement switchblock, and the dude at the wreckers mumbled sagely, "Guy before ya musta turned it onanorf with the killswitch all the time."

Your hypothesis also makes sense, though; who to believe?
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Postby diesel » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:48 pm

u bastards!
who do i believe?
fugged if i know.
on one hand, i've always used the key.
but on the other hand i've been riding less than a year.
one question tho dave, is using the key bad only cos u don't use the kill switch? o can it cause other issues? and why is it red?
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Postby Gosling1 » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:02 pm

Overuse without preventative maintenance is the problem. I have seen so many problems with kill switches that weren't used regularly... :roll:

Thats why you give them a blast with wizards piss every coupla 3 years or so, it reduces and removes any light corrosion build-up. ( I am talking about an 'everyday' bike here, not a weekend warrior.)

A hypothesis is only a 'possible' solution. Reality is that using your kill switch all the time will not stuff it ( and if this logic was correct, then exactly the same problem can be expected by using your ignition key all the time :roll: )

Safety purposes, dead right, absolutely. Its far safer to flick the kill switch off with your thumb in an emergency than use the ignition switch. If you use the killswitch regularly, you will always go for it in an emergency, not the ignition switch...........which is exactly what you will do if you use the ignition switch to shut the bike down all the time :roll: :roll: its called force of habit. You use the ignition key to turn the bike on.......not off.

Of course this is just my personal opinion, and opinions are like arseholes, 'cause everyone's got one, and usually they are full of shit. :D

BTW I think all front wheels should also be turned to the RIGHT when you park your bike using the sidestand. If you turn the front wheel to the LEFT, you are obviously gay. :wink: :wink:

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Postby Gosling1 » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:09 pm

diesel wrote:u bastards!
who do i believe?
fugged if i know.
on one hand, i've always used the key.
but on the other hand i've been riding less than a year.
one question tho dave, is using the key bad only cos u don't use the kill switch? o can it cause other issues? and why is it red?


Yes, its only bad because you get used to turning the bike off with key, and in an emergency, if you need to shut it down quick, then (a) you won't automatically go for the kill switch because you never use it, (b) it is probably fully rusted up inside :wink: and won't move at all..........

They are red just for safety purposes. It grabs your attention and says "This is where you turn me off Baby !!!"

and that is why Ignition keys are NOT red.

So Endeth The Sermon.

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Postby diesel » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:57 pm

hehehe :D:D:D:D
cool, thanks heaps.

i guess i'm ugly enough to form my own opinion.
hey. i formed my own asshole!

udid well explaining urself without attacking anyone elses point of view!
well done!

oh and why on earth would you turn ur wheel to th.... oh nevermind.
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Postby tape » Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:10 pm

diesel wrote:i guess i'm ugly enough to form my own opinion.
hey. i formed my own asshole!



Ahhhh Grasshopper

The worldly knowledge is comming to you...,

Ya Mum formed your Asshole at birth, BUTT, your youthfull enthusiastic endeavours gaped it....hehe :wink: :oops: :roll:

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Postby Duane » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:16 am

Only use the kill switch if you wanna make a really loud bang when you turn it back on while you're going down the freeway
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Postby mike-s » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:42 am

Heh, i didnt need those muffler Baffles anyway..
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Postby Duane » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:44 am

Nope! its the quick way to turn your KHI muffler into a YOSHIMURA!!!
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Postby diesel » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:36 am

tape wrote:Ya Mum formed your Asshole at birth, cheers


bullshit.
why should she get all the credit.
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Postby the kid » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:41 am

diesel wrote:
tape wrote:Ya Mum formed your Asshole at birth, cheers


bullshit.
why should she get all the credit.


Vince , i thought you had practised hard to become an Asshole , and you seem to have perfected it :twisted:
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Postby Duane » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:53 am

diesel wrote:
tape wrote:Ya Mum formed your Asshole at birth, cheers


bullshit.
why should she get all the credit.

Yeah Vince's dad could have given him th' asshole
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