Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:39 pm
lotii10396 wrote:At this point I haven't had any other suggestions so trying the rear brake as a last resort still doesn't seem that ridiculous to me.
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:36 pm
lotii10396 wrote:BTW whilst folks are happy to say that braking was the cause of the slide (so the point is understood), how about some suggestions on what else I could have tried to get the bike around the corner if I was already off the bike & leaning it as far as I dared? At this point I haven't had any other suggestions so trying the rear brake as a last resort still doesn't seem that ridiculous to me.
Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:58 pm
Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:16 pm
robracer wrote:Counter steer to get the bike through the corner or at least start the turn ...... contact patch will also depend on inflation pressure but another thing I would mention is that a skinny tire will turn in faster where a fat tire will be harder to turn, a skinny tire will also follow road cracks a lot easier then fat tire so there are many pros & cons, when the wheel size changes started way back when, 16 inch did not work but 17inch did & became popular...... have to ask the experts on that one as to why.
Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:21 pm
Cath wrote:lotii10396 wrote:BTW whilst folks are happy to say that braking was the cause of the slide (so the point is understood), how about some suggestions on what else I could have tried to get the bike around the corner if I was already off the bike & leaning it as far as I dared? At this point I haven't had any other suggestions so trying the rear brake as a last resort still doesn't seem that ridiculous to me.
Honestly, (from the sounds of what you're describing) you could have steered it around the corner. Leaning as far as you dare, is often nowhere near leaning as far as you can (*especially* when you're a noob). I remember the first time I experienced this - I was riding down Elliots Way, in the Snowy Mountains. There was gravel on the road and I was going into a corner way too fast (my impression at the time anyway). In an instant, knew if I hit the guard rail, I would sail down, down, down and die, so I had to tip in and low side. In that split second, I *knew* I was going to low side, slam into the bike and guard rail and probably break several bones and it was going to hurt, but that was better than sailing off the side of a close-to-sheer drop. So I tipped it in hard and took a deep breath waiting for the impact. Before I even finished drawing the breath in, the bike had carved around the corner beautifully and I glimpsed a whole new world of riding that might be possible... And then I got the shakes (delayed reaction).
But the fact that I tipped it in hard, "knowing" that how far I was leaning would result in a low side, as it was "way too far" over, only to find the bike planted solidly and turning nicely, well, it made me realise that my perception of what was leaning too far was waaaaaaay different from what in reality is leaning too far over. And maybe that might be the same in your case?
So, I second (third, fourth, fifth?) the comments about more rider training. I highly recommend Twist of the Wrist 1 & 2 (if you can overlook the cheesiness), and also maybe Level 1 Superbike School. And even though you've copped a bit of curry in this thread, know that we're all glad you came out of it with so little damage! Live and learn
Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:48 pm
Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:09 pm
Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:13 am
Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:33 am
6maniac wrote:FFS ... Do a course, spare us the endless analysis based on your car experience, then come back and share the lessons learnt.
And try to keep the feedback to 3 paragraphs of less than 20 words ...
Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:41 pm
Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:56 pm
Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:23 pm
lotii10396 wrote:The road is the Tooperang Road - I was travelling from the Mt Compass end. When I get back home I will try and take a video of my car driving through the corner (with different lines & speed) for those who might want to take up the 110km/h challenge. Of course they would have to stay in their own lane.... The only issue is that these riders now know there is road damage in the middle of the corner, have probably seen the photos (and maybe even the video if I make one) so it will never really be a fair comparison.
Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:23 pm
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