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Interstate laws

Postby DaveGPz » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:20 pm

Hoping someone can help with this one - some friends of ours are coming over from Adelaide next week; one of them is still on her Ls, and in SA that means she's restricted to 80kph. What happens when she crosses the border into our great police state of Victoria. Does our surprisingly enlightened :P 100kph L limit apply?
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby Six Addict » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:26 pm

i'd hazard a guess that as long as she is cimplying with the law of the state she is in...

how is a vic policeman gonna book someone for not breaking the law in the state and then issue a fine just because in another state the law has been broken?? :?
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby Smitty » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:30 pm

state laws apply AFAIK
so in Vic..no speed restriction (but no pillions, zero BAC and LAMS apply)
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Lic ... ctions.htm
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby DaveGPz » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:35 pm

Cheers - that's what I thought, but when she phoned the Nunawading police station (WTF Nunawading? Because "It sounded Victorian"!) they couldn't tell her. I think SA plates might have a speed restriction printed on them, so it might be a good idea to pick up a plain set at Bordertown?
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby aardvark » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:45 pm

The laws you are speaking about (ie: the requirement to travel at 80km/h whilst on her L's) are conditions of her licence. As a result, she needs to obey by the conditions of her licence. It's similar to the way some people have curfew conditions, 0 blood alcohol limits, the requirement to wear glasses or conditions to only drive an automatic. It doesn't matter what state they are in, those conditions still apply.

She can risk it and hope she doesn't get stopped, however, if she gets stopped by a half-switched on traffic copper, they'll know what those conditions are and she'll lose her licence. Hardly worth the risk.
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby DaveGPz » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:48 pm

Oh poo; thanks for the heads up - I'll let them know
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby bonester » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:22 pm

The laws you are speaking about (ie: the requirement to travel at 80km/h whilst on her L's) are conditions of her licence. As a result, she needs to obey by the conditions of her licence. It's similar to the way some people have curfew conditions, 0 blood alcohol limits, the requirement to wear glasses or conditions to only drive an automatic. It doesn't matter what state they are in, those conditions still apply.

She can risk it and hope she doesn't get stopped, however, if she gets stopped by a half-switched on traffic copper, they'll know what those conditions are and she'll lose her licence. Hardly worth the risk.
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Sorry to disagree mate, but the learner must abide by the state laws for learners. An example recently happened where a Queensland learner (not speed restricted) got pinged for L plates inside the windows, where it is legal in Queensland and not in NSW. If you are a Queensland learner, and venture into NSW, then you would be speed limited to 80. :shock:

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Re: Interstate laws

Postby aardvark » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:28 pm

bonester wrote:Sorry to disagree mate, but the learner must abide by the state laws for learners. An example recently happened where a Queensland learner (not speed restricted) got pinged for L plates inside the windows, where it is legal in Queensland and not in NSW. If you are a Queensland learner, and venture into NSW, then you would be speed limited to 80. :shock:


Was this matter heard before a court?
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby bonester » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:36 pm

No idea.
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby Jonno » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:39 pm

As my dad use to say, get it in writing and then at least you have something to wipe your arse with after they reem you :lol:

But half seriously...

If you can get VicRoads to fax/send you their ruling on it and ask the representative to sign it, carry it with you and it might just work depending on the officers interpretation!
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby Six Addict » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:07 pm

even tho i said something different before i'd trust the copper (aardvark) ;)
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby aardvark » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:26 pm

We had a further discussion in relation to this exact topic in our office this morning. 95% of us are in agreement that the licence condition is just that..... a condition of the licence. Meaning, it would need to be followed regardless of the state or territory you are in.

I am currently attempting to seek clarification of this matter via other sources.
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby Shifty » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:31 am

aardvark wrote:The laws you are speaking about (ie: the requirement to travel at 80km/h whilst on her L's) are conditions of her licence. As a result, she needs to obey by the conditions of her licence. It's similar to the way some people have curfew conditions, 0 blood alcohol limits, the requirement to wear glasses or conditions to only drive an automatic. It doesn't matter what state they are in, those conditions still apply.

She can risk it and hope she doesn't get stopped, however, if she gets stopped by a half-switched on traffic copper, they'll know what those conditions are and she'll lose her licence. Hardly worth the risk.


Agreed.

I was on a Victorian 'P' license when I moved to QLD, where 'P' plates were not required. I looked into it from both VIC & QLD ends and I was required to wear the plate as it was a condition of my license.
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby aardvark » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:44 pm

I spoke with our liason with the SA dept of transport today. They agree with my understanding of the law. The licence conditions are just that, conditions for that licence, and as such, they need to be complied with, regardless of what state you happen to be in.
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Re: Interstate laws

Postby simpleton » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:49 pm

Just on the subject, does Victoria have double points for the long weekend.
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