Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

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Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Russell » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:34 am

I've had the ZZR600 for a few months now and I've been trying a heap of different fuel. I've tried just about all of the different brands and both Premium and Standard Unleaded...

I can't say I've noticed any performance difference between the two (my bike is still stock). The manual says to run "Unleaded" and the dealer told me to put Premium (except Optimax :) ) in it... Of course, every time I pull up at the pump and notice the price difference between the two, it's pretty hard to reach for that Premium nozzle (given that I can't tell the difference performance wise).

However, I was just looking over the numbers this morning (I've been keeping track of my fuel fills) and was surprised to discover that despite being up to 10c/L dearer, it's actually cheaper ($/km) for me to run Premium - by up to 0.5 c/km. Now that doesn't sound very much :P , but if I do 600 km's in a week, that's $3...

So now I don't feel so bad about paying that extra $2 odd for my tank of fuel!

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re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby ty » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:50 am

I found that too.
I found BP Ultimate, and the new vortex to be the best for mileage
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re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Nanna10r » Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:02 am

I dont do the milage thats some of you guys do, but I always put it down to false economy with cheap fuels. Its gotta be better for your motor & since bike maintenance n parts are so expensive I just pay the extra dollar or so a tank. Thanks for the vigilance though Russel i now have another point to justify the use of the good gear. Topstufff.
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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Russell » Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:29 am

ty wrote:I found that too.
I found BP Ultimate, and the new vortex to be the best for mileage

Just started using BP Ultimate last week - that's what made me check back over the numbers. I got 342 k's out of 16L - the best economy I've ever had out of it and I haven't been taking it particularly easy... :wink:
That's better than what I used to get out of the 250 on std. unleaded!

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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Russell » Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:44 am

Pontikat wrote:Thanks for the vigilance though Russel i now have another point to justify the use of the good gear. Topstufff.


hehe - vigilance - that's a new one... My wife just says I'm weird :lol:
no worries Brett!

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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby ty » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:57 am

Russell wrote:Just started using BP Ultimate last week - that's what made me check back over the numbers. I got 342 k's out of 16L - the best economy I've ever had out of it and I haven't been taking it particularly easy... :wink:

21km/ltr is not bad at all (though Smitty will probably start spouting stories about 25km/ltr or more ;) )
But I'm jealous - I only ever got that when I was taking it easy.
Normal commute I was getting average of 18-19.
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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Plaz » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:09 pm

Russell wrote:
ty wrote:I found that too.
I found BP Ultimate, and the new vortex to be the best for mileage

Just started using BP Ultimate last week - that's what made me check back over the numbers. I got 342 k's out of 16L - the best economy I've ever had out of it and I haven't been taking it particularly easy... :wink:
That's better than what I used to get out of the 250 on std. unleaded!

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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Colette » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:19 pm

ty wrote:I found that too.
I found BP Ultimate, and the new vortex to be the best for mileage
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Ditto to Ty's findings for me as well...
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re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Felix » Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:07 pm

I have only run normal ULP a couple of times, and each time I noticed the bike pinging just a little bit more around town. So I stick with PULP now. On my trip from Toowoomba up to the Coast (and back) I used...bugger all fuel...about $20 and got something like 20km/L - not bad considering I wasn't riding "economically". I don't know exactly the mileage, that is just a rough guess.

Our Renault has a particular liking for Vortex for whatever reason and always seems to run better with it, than anything else. All the 98RON fuels we've used just seem to cost more money, there is no difference that we, or the on board computer can pick up.
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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Russell » Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:42 pm

ty wrote:But I'm jealous - I only ever got that when I was taking it easy.
Normal commute I was getting average of 18-19.

Just prior to my 12000k service, I was getting about mid 19's (low 19's on normal unleaded) This was the 3rd tank after the service, the other two were both Vortex...

Looking back over the numbers again, the first few tanks of fuel gave me about 21 - and I'm SURE I was taking it easy then - dropped into the 19's pretty quick and has only just popped back above 20 now. Maybe something to do with the service (new air or fuel filter perhaps? they replaced both in the service)

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re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Rusty » Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:19 pm

I run 7Eleven premium. *ducks for cover*

She's jetted a bit rich, so Ultimate and Optimax tend to make it backfire a bit. Standard unleaded just doesn't cut it 'cos the poor old girl sounds like someone's dropped a bucket of spanners on it. And the 7 Eleven's on my way home from work.

I get 17-18km/l when I'm commuting. On the highway I once got as high as 24km/l. Unfortunately, the beastie's thirst rises wif der revs ....
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re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby mike-s » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:09 pm

My past bikes used to regularly get 20km/l with plain ULP and 22-22.5km/l with optimax/ultimate/vortex/8000 (though 8k used to kill my EL250, pop, fart, choke choke). This worked out to an extra 20km/tank, which worked out to be about 50 cents a tank, given a bi-weekly refill that was about $100 a year i was saving. :-).


However the new bike SEVERELY needs a tune, either that or im just naturally too ham fisted with the throttle. Putting premium in the last two tanks has yielded a whopping 15km/L!!!! (as opposed to the usual 11-13km/L). It needs a tune, but i can cope with the (lack of) economy for the moment *grin*.
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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Mizz ZZR » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:03 am

Colettezzr600 wrote:
ty wrote:I found that too.
I found BP Ultimate, and the new vortex to be the best for mileage
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Ditto to Ty's findings for me as well...

And same again.
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Re: re: Fuel and ZZR600's (again)

Postby Ratmick » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:05 am

Mizz ZZR wrote:
Colettezzr600 wrote:
ty wrote:I found that too.
I found BP Ultimate, and the new vortex to be the best for mileage
ty


Ditto to Ty's findings for me as well...

And same again.

Yada yada yada...except mine used to run pretty well on Optimax, and doesn't run very well mid-winter on normal unleaded, coughs and farts like it's been filled full of beans and cabbage :oops:

I use BP Ultimate now, The local Shell converted, and I get better mileage in warm weather. Usually between 19-21km/l in either case.
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