nissin caliper issues on the gumby

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nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby 2006zx10r » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:07 pm

Hi Guys,

Ive finally made the jump to zx14 calipers on the 06 10r. The previous upgrades were brembo 19x20, ss lines and race pads, this combination was fine for the track, no fade good braking etc. However i always wanted to see what the nissin calipers could do.

The nissan have been installed along with the above upgrades and race fluid, with stock zx14 pads.

I have amazing brakes, however a few issues have arisen on a 300k shake down run.

1. I have no lever travel, the brakes are either on or off, its very very difficult to modulate. I usally trail the brakes deep into a corner, now i cannot do it, as i have little or no modulation and lack of feel.
2. In the wet, this combo offered no feel, and no confidence.
3. No initial bite, just heaps of braking force.

The question i have is for those that have this combo, are your experiences the same ???

If not should i change the MC, pads to get a better feel ??

Thanks in advance
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Wattie » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:11 pm

havent tried that combo, but personally i'd go back to stock M/C 8)
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby robracer » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:14 pm

2006zx10r wrote:Hi Guys,Ive finally made the jump to zx14 calipers on the 06 10r. The previous upgrades were brembo 19x20, ss lines and race pads, this combination was fine for the track, no fade good braking etc. However i always wanted to see what the nissin calipers could do.

Your answer is go back to the original, if it aint broke dont fix it 8)
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby 2006zx10r » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:14 pm

thanks wattie, thats what i was thinking. I know you have the mod on the crim, how should they feel ?
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Wattie » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:21 pm

mine had stock M/c, they were definat;y touchier than standard, but maybe the 19/20 is pushing a bit too much fluid.
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby 2006zx10r » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:24 pm

always looking for improvements rob, otherwise i would still have a stock bike..

Will try the orig mc and report back... Thanks
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Glen » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:39 pm

I've got the brembo MC and 14 calipers on Wardy's tracky that I've just bought. Haven't had it on the track but in the street pulling stoppies the setup feels pretty good, heaps of feel, you can keep it just off lifting the back wheel and then just stab it. I'll see how it goes at the creek on Friday.
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Gosling1 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:45 pm

I'll watch this thread with interest.......about the only thing left to change on the MFP12 now, as far as the brakes go.....is bunging on some of these Nissin calipers.

Is it true that the the 14 Nissin calipers are the same as the 07-08 ZX6 Nissins ??

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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Wattie » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:06 pm

yeah goz, all the same. and the Z1000 has em too now 8)
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Gosling1 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:11 pm

thanks Wattie - the ZX14 Nissins seem to only pop up on ebay every now and then, here or the US - but the ZX6 ones appear a lot more frequently, and often for cheaper !! :lol:

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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby hoffy » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:34 pm

Gosling1 wrote:about the only thing left to change on the MFP12 now, as far as the brakes go.....is bunging on some of these Nissin calipers.


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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby Glen » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:09 am

I've got two sets :P :P :P
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby zxsixr03 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:00 pm

I have the nissin's on my ZX6R with stock MC and has great feel... i know the feeling as i have the brembo set up on the 848 and yeah brakes well but no real feel. Could be the pads to i installed the DP pads with the nissin's, best pads i've used.
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby the kid » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:24 pm

There is a chart on the TZ350 web site that has the ratios for MC piston size /caliper piston diameter . Pretty interesting read .
Had a 5/8 Yamaha MC against a Brembo 2 piston caliper on the A/C RD and it was very wooden , changed to a 14mm and it is so much better with feel and no loss of power .
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Re: nissin caliper issues on the gumby

Postby greenman43 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:52 pm

For those looking for a cheap alternative, I've installed 06-07 CBR1000RR calipers, and once they got some fresh pads have nothing but praise. Line pressure is way, way up, with very good bite. Only downside is that they require 5mm spacers to fit.

No idea how they compare to the 6-14 Nissins, but these definitely work, and are much easier to find.

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