06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
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06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
Hello 06-07 ZX10R Owners. I have done everything with these brakes including running a 08 ZX6R master cylinder, a older 5/8" master cylinder, a Brembo master cylinder, bleeding, back bleeding, braided lines, different brake fluids, different pads, different calipers etc etc, and every combination there after.
Here's the drum.
The Brembo master cylinder will stop the brake fade but not the "on/off" feel of them.
The 5/8" master cylinder also stops the fade but feels very woody and also doesn't cure the on/off feel.
The ZX6R master cylinder is a reasonable improvment on the original stopping the fade, but again, not the on/off feel.
Can you see a patern? No? How about - no master cylinder will fix that awful on/off feel of the OEM brakes, only that awful fade of the lever during track days. So what to do? Well, after much swearing, money and scrapped knuckles I can confidently say it is/was the calipers causing the problem. The 4 pad calpiers are just crap. I assume only the top two pads were initally biting then all of a sudden the bottom two pads would bite, ie off..........ON!
So change the calipers from 4 pad to 2 pad. That IS the answer. I have gone for 07 CBR100RR calipers which are the same as the originals (Tokiko) but are 2 pad. You will need to make 5mm spacers to fit to the caliper bolts (24mmx5mm with a 10mm hole) but that is it. Job done. I paid $250 for a set from the wreckers (findapart.com.au).
The change in brakes is light and dark. You can actually feel the brakes come on and off and there is consistancy no matter how light or hard you brake.
If you make this mod you willl be smiling all the way to your Kawasaki Dealer where upon you will throw the original calipers through their front window whilst doing a 100m stoppie.
Guys and gals, this is the best mod you can do to your 10. Reward yourself and get to know how proper brakes should feel. Change the calipers before changing anything else. If you are unsure take a look at the 08 brakes - surprise surprise - they are 2 pad.
Here's the drum.
The Brembo master cylinder will stop the brake fade but not the "on/off" feel of them.
The 5/8" master cylinder also stops the fade but feels very woody and also doesn't cure the on/off feel.
The ZX6R master cylinder is a reasonable improvment on the original stopping the fade, but again, not the on/off feel.
Can you see a patern? No? How about - no master cylinder will fix that awful on/off feel of the OEM brakes, only that awful fade of the lever during track days. So what to do? Well, after much swearing, money and scrapped knuckles I can confidently say it is/was the calipers causing the problem. The 4 pad calpiers are just crap. I assume only the top two pads were initally biting then all of a sudden the bottom two pads would bite, ie off..........ON!
So change the calipers from 4 pad to 2 pad. That IS the answer. I have gone for 07 CBR100RR calipers which are the same as the originals (Tokiko) but are 2 pad. You will need to make 5mm spacers to fit to the caliper bolts (24mmx5mm with a 10mm hole) but that is it. Job done. I paid $250 for a set from the wreckers (findapart.com.au).
The change in brakes is light and dark. You can actually feel the brakes come on and off and there is consistancy no matter how light or hard you brake.
If you make this mod you willl be smiling all the way to your Kawasaki Dealer where upon you will throw the original calipers through their front window whilst doing a 100m stoppie.
Guys and gals, this is the best mod you can do to your 10. Reward yourself and get to know how proper brakes should feel. Change the calipers before changing anything else. If you are unsure take a look at the 08 brakes - surprise surprise - they are 2 pad.
Last edited by motomick on Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
can you put a pic up of the 5mm spacers as part of the finished product..cheers mate.
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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
oh no... its started already...hmmmmmmmmmmm........................

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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
It started long agobaby_ninja wrote:oh no... its started already...hmmmmmmmmmmm........................

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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
lol i need to sort out my brakes too... something is not right.... could need a bleed or new pads, not sure yet...
i suppose to crappy brakes are in tune with the "gumbiness" of the gumby... lol
i suppose to crappy brakes are in tune with the "gumbiness" of the gumby... lol
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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
Go to a bike shop, order EBC HH pads for your bike (same as ZRX, early ZX9, early ZX12, late ZX7) put em in, bleed brake fluid with 5.1 and they will throw you over the handlebarsbaby_ninja wrote:lol i need to sort out my brakes too... something is not right.... could need a bleed or new pads, not sure yet...
i suppose to crappy brakes are in tune with the "gumbiness" of the gumby... lol

alternatively buy the parts and go to Daves, and drink his beer while you *WATCH* him do it

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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
firstly there are too many daves around here to choose from.... maybe i should just get them all to do it togetheralternatively buy the parts and go to Daves, and drink his beer while you *WATCH* him do it![]()

anywho i will take your advice hoff
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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
Any of the Daves will do FFS !! Madkaw's, Dave #3 or Wattie OK 

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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
I reckon they will hit you $50 to $60 a side for the pads, be prep'd, think still cheaper than stockers..
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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
z power has the pads for 69 a sethoffy wrote:I reckon they will hit you $50 to $60 a side for the pads, be prep'd, think still cheaper than stockers..


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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
That will probably be $69 a side, just check, if $69 for 4 pads it's a bargain.. 

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Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
im abit of a newbie but, your having problems with a bike thats a few yrs old? 06-07 should be bit fresh from problems? or are there faults in that model?
Re: 06-07 ZX10R Brake Fix (no really!)
Mine is an 06, Im on my 3rd set of pads and 3rd change of fluid....yes, I dont live in Victoriafadz90 wrote:im abit of a newbie but, your having problems with a bike thats a few yrs old? 06-07 should be bit fresh from problems? or are there faults in that model?
