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Front Brake Lines

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:28 pm
by Buck
Gidday all, aquired a front set of Hel Lines off Ebay and have fitted them
to my ZX7R.

The Factory setup is a line from each caliper into a "slave?" then a line to the master cylinder at the Lever.

This kit I aquired fits doubled up at the lever and direct to each caliper and it fits so I havnt cocked it up methinks..?

If I am right why the extra plumbing from the factory?

Steve

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:29 pm
by BladeBoy
Just a guess, maybe to even out the fluid pressure ?

Re: Front Brake Lines

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:31 pm
by sluglie
Buck wrote:Gidday all, aquired a front set of Hel Lines off Ebay and have fitted them
to my ZX7R.

The Factory setup is a line from each caliper into a "slave?" then a line to the master cylinder at the Lever.

This kit I aquired fits doubled up at the lever and direct to each caliper and it fits so I havnt cocked it up methinks..?

If I am right why the extra plumbing from the factory?

Steve


twin lines from master cylinder to calipers give better breaking feel and more positive response, i could never understand why factory fitted systems have a single line to a splitter (you would think it would add costs to production) or even worse are the single line to one caliper and a bridge over to the other :roll: :roll:

just be happy you now have excellent brakes (got hel lines myself) and got rid of the factory fitted naffness

Re: Front Brake Lines

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:49 pm
by Smitty
sluglie wrote:[
twin lines from master cylinder to calipers give better breaking feel and more positive response, i could never understand why factory fitted systems have a single line to a splitter (you would think it would add costs to production) or even worse are the single line to one caliper and a bridge over to the other :roll: :roll:


as he sez........... iamwithstupid.gif

Re: Front Brake Lines

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:23 am
by javaman
Buck wrote:Gidday all, aquired a front set of Hel Lines off Ebay and have fitted them
to my ZX7R.

The Factory setup is a line from each caliper into a "slave?" then a line to the master cylinder at the Lever.

This kit I aquired fits doubled up at the lever and direct to each caliper and it fits so I havnt cocked it up methinks..?

If I am right why the extra plumbing from the factory?

Steve


Steve, took me awhile to figure out mine... basically as you said. Two lines going to the calipers directly. Now you need to figure out which one is left/rigt. When done properly it's really nice as it does not touch any parts/fenders etc. The improvements is simply awesome :D

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:32 am
by Nanna10r
Easy Fit up champ, dont forget to whack a cable tie around the Brake lever & tip the handlebars to the extreme LEFT overnight.

Braided lines would have to be the best mod after crash's imho.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:31 am
by Smitty
Pontikat wrote:
Braided lines would have to be the best mod after crash's imho.


don't forget a can is also a good mod....
well actually a can is a requisite on any bike :D

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:30 am
by javaman
Pontikat wrote:Easy Fit up champ, dont forget to whack a cable tie around the Brake lever & tip the handlebars to the extreme LEFT overnight.



Why is that ?

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:05 pm
by Plaz
javaman wrote:
Pontikat wrote:Easy Fit up champ, dont forget to whack a cable tie around the Brake lever & tip the handlebars to the extreme LEFT overnight.



Why is that ?

Andi, thats a method of "gravity" bleeding the brakes, I personally prefer tp "pump" fluid in and air out, both methods are equally good though.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:05 pm
by Neka79
javaman wrote:
Pontikat wrote:Easy Fit up champ, dont forget to whack a cable tie around the Brake lever & tip the handlebars to the extreme LEFT overnight.



Why is that ?

its ur bikes way of practicing for a lock up/low side...so its prepared to pick itself up...

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:38 pm
by Buck
Thanks, they work a treat
Steve

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:20 pm
by mrmina
what happen to my invite to help u fit them.

i could of told u that :P

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:02 am
by Buck
mrmina wrote:what happen to my invite to help u fit them.

:P


Thanks Mina
But I was worried which oriface you would fit them to.
I didnt intentionally buy them out from under you.

Im trying to keep in ya good books for when I fuck up
fitting crashnobbies.
Steve

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:31 pm
by mrmina
Buck wrote:
mrmina wrote:what happen to my invite to help u fit them.

:P


Thanks Mina
But I was worried which oriface you would fit them to.
I didnt intentionally buy them out from under you.

Im trying to keep in ya good books for when I fuck up
fitting crashnobbies.
Steve


thats ok mate. there was never any hard feelings

i got another set coming.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:40 am
by YoungKwakUK
Not sure why kawasaki split the front lines from the factory but 2 seperate lines is better as there are less connections in your system to allow air/moisture in. And the cable tie around the brake level, i was told to do that too. i did, and it seemed to take away a small amount of the spongyness and firms the lever a bit. Maybe as its sat under compression all day/night, all the small air bubbles move to the top of the system,maybe forced out into the space in the reservoir ?