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Postby marZ750 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:45 am

Hi there ,I am looking to up grade the brakes on my Z750,could any one give me some advice on how,with what and where to in the sydney area please
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Postby Phil » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:07 am

braided lines would be the first thing to do. then, if thats not enough you may want to try some wave rotors.

of course the "feeling" thing could be a simple brake pad compound or brand change.

what pads are in it now, how many k's have they done ?
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Postby photomike666 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:32 am

How long has the fluid been in there? My brakes started to fade even after a pad change, then I changed the fluid and it made one hell of a difference.
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Postby greeny » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:46 am

go the braided lines.
Put some GOOD brake fluid in like Motul RBF600 in them. This fluid is awesome. Everyone i recomend it to comes back with positive results.

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Postby Nanna10r » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:03 pm

Hey greenie tell us more about this fluid mate whats the go ?.
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Postby greeny » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:22 pm

I started using it years ago when racing cars as it was the only fluid i that would give a good pedal throughout a session.
Its about $25 for 500ml but it is worth every cent.
It says it a race fluid but i ran it in a road car for 2 years and in my bike for the last year with no dramas.
Heres the info from the website.

RBF 600 FACTORY LINE

100% synthetic, RBF 600 FACTORY LINE is a polyglycol-based brake fluid exclusively designed for races. Developed to resist high temperatures and wet-weather conditions, RBF 600 has a high dry boiling point of 312°C and a wet boiling point of 216°C. This ensures effective braking under extreme racing or rainy conditions. Couple this with its outstanding anti-vapor lock performance, RBF 600 has become a well-trusted brake fluid in many races.


SPECIFICATIONS

Product RBF 600 FACTORY LINE

Feature 100% synthetic, polyglycol-based. Has extreme thermal resistance and stability.

SAE/DOT Standard FMVSS 116, DOT4 & SAE J1703

Specification —

Maker's Approval —

Compatibility All types of hydraulic actuated brakes and clutch systems (not to be used with silicon-based and mineral-based brake fluids).
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Postby HemiDuty » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:15 pm

Yep, RBF600 is good stuff, I use it in the racebike. I still have brake fade though, but I think I will have to start changing pads every race meeting and / or every 2 trackdays or so.

Softer, race type pads are the go too, they do not last as long but give better feel. And yeah the braided lines is the first thing on the list.
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Postby marZ750 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:53 pm

Thanks everyone for your thoughts,the bike is only 6weeks old with about 1900kms on it .should I wait a bit longer to change to different oads and fliud or do it ASAP for better brake response.I will post a picture as soon as i can
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Postby MrStompy » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:22 pm

I have a Z750 as well.

I find the brakes to feel very spongy to me. I dont remember noticing it when i test rode the bike or for the first few months of owning it - im figuring it is because i was still inexperienced as i hadnt ridden bikes for 5 years plus i hadnt ridden many other bikes.

Now that i have ridden a few other bikes i want my brakes to be better.

I have just ordered a set of braided brake lines from aus streetfighter

http://www.austreetfighter.com.au/

they are about $160 and i reckon thats a pretty cheap mod.

They havent arrived yet so i cant say how easy/hard they are to fit yet but as soon as they are on i will post about how it goes

i emailed the guys there about it first and they were incredibly helpful.

I would give them a call and have a yarn to them about what you want to do
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Postby Neka79 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:57 pm

hmm on such a new biuke have the pads/discs bedded and settled yet??

um theres a honda dealer in syd right?? go get urself a honda..they have top brakes :wink:

theres not that many things it can be really...the braking system has only limited parts

Master cylinder
lines
disc
calliper
fluid
pads

now Lines as stated are abt $160..fluid at $25...pads abt $50 per set ($100 for front) ...so id start with those kinda mods...

discs (waves ) are abt $800 for the 2 fronts..so id leave that till near last..and i cant imagine ur caliper or master cylinder wouldnt be good enuf on a new model bike...

ive seen Greeny's 00 zx6r lift the back wheel in the air from too much front brake "excitement" ...so id try pads/fluid and possibly lines....
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Postby greeny » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:05 pm

dont know what you are talking about


nothing to see here
move along
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Postby Neka79 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:04 pm

greeny wrote:dont know what you are talking about


nothing to see here
move along


ooops..looks like u braked too hard, over balanced & lost ur grip with one hand....balance mate...balance..
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Postby HemiDuty » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:11 am

Nice one Greenster! Didn't know you were up to that sorta thing.

Pads would have to be bedded by now, they only really need a few goes to get them happening. Do the lines first, they will make a big difference to feel.
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Postby mrmina » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:51 pm

Neka79 wrote:
greeny wrote:dont know what you are talking about


nothing to see here
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ooops..looks like u braked too hard, over balanced & lost ur grip with one hand....balance mate...balance..


u know whats funnier than me giving tips on cornering....

u giving tips on balance. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby esie » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:20 pm

Maria, I have a 2004 Z750 and wasn't real fussed on the brakes after riding my husband's FZ1 which has great brakes (as Pontikat found out the hard way :oops: ) Anyway, a couple of months ago I put on HEL braided brake lines that I purchased through Austreetfighter. They have made a difference, and next time I get brake pads I will get some EBC-HH pads that were recommended to me by another former Z750 rider. He also strongly recommends to de-glaze the discs (with circular motions, rug the surface with some coarse emery paper), & ensure the caliper slides are lubed. See http://retrozedual.proboards46.com/inde ... 1136633678
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