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Postby MrFaulty » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:54 pm

Hi, just tensioning my chain and I note there are graduation marks, I have never used these before, however, if I do, then there is a difference between the end of the adjustment part and the end of the fork for both sides. Should I use these marks or simply use a steel rule such as I have been doing in the past?

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Re: chain adjustment

Postby Strika » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:01 am

Technically, you should use the markers if they are accurate and even on both sides. Often however, they are not accurate. If so, then it's best to string line the bike, work out what the distance difference is and mark the swingarm with it.

EG: My race bike when I strung lined it, if I had the axle locked into the correct marks on each side of the swingarm, the wheel pointed slightly to the left. So, when refitting or adjusting the axle, I always add 3mm to the right hand side to ensure it is straight.

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Re: chain adjustment

Postby tim » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:53 am

Unless you're going to string line it, then Japanese engineers put those marks there for you to use so why wouldn't you trust them and use them - they did design and build your bike after all. :? ;) Who's to say they made the swingarms the same length on both sides.
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby seiko1 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:12 pm

tim wrote:Unless you're going to string line it, then Japanese engineers put those marks there for you to use so why wouldn't you trust them and use them - they did design and build your bike after all. :? ;) Who's to say they made the swingarms the same length on both sides.

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Re: chain adjustment

Postby Mad RS » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:02 am

I picked up a chain aligning laser and it seems to work perfectly. Cost about $80 and cut down aligning the chain to 2 min.
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Postby Jonnymac » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:21 am

Where did you get your laser from?
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby Nelso » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:38 am

tim wrote:Unless you're going to string line it, then Japanese engineers put those marks there for you to use so why wouldn't you trust them and use them - they did design and build your bike after all. :? ;) Who's to say they made the swingarms the same length on both sides.


Don't trust them, most are inaccurate. Remember they are engineered to a budget and mass produced, so precision and accuracy is not as high a priority as profit. The best bet is to stringline it to make sure it's straight.
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby loubre » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:55 am

Nelso wrote:
tim wrote:Unless you're going to string line it, then Japanese engineers put those marks there for you to use so why wouldn't you trust them and use them - they did design and build your bike after all. :? ;) Who's to say they made the swingarms the same length on both sides.


Don't trust them, most are inaccurate. Remember they are engineered to a budget and mass produced, so precision and accuracy is not as high a priority as profit. The best bet is to stringline it to make sure it's straight.


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Re: chain adjustment

Postby jefflthomas » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:03 am

just buy an old Beeser...no worries about these newfangled convoluted marked swingarms
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby MrFaulty » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:05 pm

Thanks everyone, chain adjusted properly and using the graduation marks would mean the the tyre is about 3mm out!! the japs should have paid more attention ;)
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby jefflthomas » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:24 am

supposedly the back wheel's slightly offset on my ZRX1200 to accommodate the chain with the larger tyre than the 1100
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby oldman » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:05 am

The marks are close but off. Get a three foot lenth of angle aluminum, (90 degree) and run it along the chain and measure the distance between the angle aluminum and the front of the rear tire in comparison to the distance between the rear of the rear tire. Easy and cheap and it does not require batteries. Jim Beam is however a necessity.
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby jefflthomas » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:47 am

now there's a good idea...wonder where i put that broken 4' level
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Re: chain adjustment

Postby oldman » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:50 am

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Re: chain adjustment

Postby jefflthomas » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:07 am

how true are Kawi mags?...i've never taken a dial-gauge to 'em
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