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Power Commanders

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:29 am
by kwakamad
Am interested in fitting a Power Commander 3 to my 05 zx10. Have heard issues about bikes not running correctly and even will not start!! I figured once installed u would expect no dramas. Any info be terrific thanks...

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:33 am
by zx-10r
do you have after market exhaust on the bike?

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:29 am
by ttc
You don't actually have to have a modified bike for it to make a difference, once mapped it will benefit the standard bike, but obviously using it with a pipe/filter will give you the biggest gains. If your bike is modified, I highly recommend it, as modifications change the air/fuel ratio that the standard computer doesn't want to know about (most bikes) and can cause dangerous leaning out, jerkiness atc. If you buy one, please spend the money and have your bike mapped properly, no two bikes are the same and that way you will get the maximum benefit out of it.
It's an electrical item, and being such it can fail, pure and simple. But the percentage is quite low for the quanitity of them out there.

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:36 pm
by kwakamad
zx-10r yes my bike has a akrapovic can, k&n filter. ttc cheers for all that valuable info, been lookin ebay seem to be bout $470 mark. Mob in W.A are around $440. Shop in Newy is a power commander dealer do you reckon be better to purchase one from him and get him to dyno, map it in etc, also what is $$$ we talkin? Just a guess around $700 supply/installed ready to ride away be close? thanks

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:07 pm
by zx-10r
ttc wrote:You don't actually have to have a modified bike for it to make a difference, once mapped it will benefit the standard bike, but obviously using it with a pipe/filter will give you the biggest gains. If your bike is modified, I highly recommend it, as modifications change the air/fuel ratio that the standard computer doesn't want to know about (most bikes) and can cause dangerous leaning out, jerkiness atc. If you buy one, please spend the money and have your bike mapped properly, no two bikes are the same and that way you will get the maximum benefit out of it.
It's an electrical item, and being such it can fail, pure and simple. But the percentage is quite low for the quanitity of them out there.


What would a PC do to a stock standard bike? I thought the manufacturer would tune the bike to preform to an optimum with the stock pipe.



I agree definately that you need one for aftermarket exhaust and filter.



map it in etc, also what is $$$ we talkin? Just a guess around $700 supply/installed ready to ride away be close? thanks

PC was 450 and custom map dyno tune was 450 for me. Well worth it, felt alot more torquey all round

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:58 pm
by QuickaKwacka
kwakamad wrote:zx-10r yes my bike has a akrapovic can, k&n filter. ttc cheers for all that valuable info, been lookin ebay seem to be bout $470 mark. Mob in W.A are around $440. Shop in Newy is a power commander dealer do you reckon be better to purchase one from him and get him to dyno, map it in etc, also what is $$$ we talkin? Just a guess around $700 supply/installed ready to ride away be close? thanks


Well worth the cost IF it is tuned (mapped) properly, I bought one from a dealer in QLD for about $440 when he advertised on this site (I think it was superbike supplies but not 100% sure now) and had Jamie at Bike Care do the dyno thing and gained a shit load of HP along with an improvement of about 50 kilometers per tank of fuel. Cost $250 to have him fit it and do the dyno run. was running a Micron Can and DNA Filters at the time.

In my opinion worth every cent. :kuda:

Regards
RonnieG

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:47 am
by ttc
zx-10r, it comes down to bikes all being different, the stanard ecu just puts the same amount of fuel in.
Benefits are same as a modified bike.. smoother and slightly more power, just obviously not the same horsepower gains, it's more of a rideability thing :)

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:27 am
by Saki
you dont need to pay someone to install it, they take about 10 minutes, if you dont know what your doing!

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:02 am
by nicko
yeah i just got one for my 12, piece of piss to install 3 plugs and one terminal! all the instructions are on there site also!

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:39 pm
by ttc
not talking about installing - talking about custom mapping.

A downloaded map will be about 90% right..

Re: Power Commanders

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:58 pm
by kwakamad
Cheers for the heads up peoples, QuickaKwaka jamie is who i was talking about good guy and knows he's shit... Oh well get a pc on the 10 soon. :)