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indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:06 pm
by Saki
Hey guys,
Chucked some new indicators on today because stockers got damaged, but now its flashing fast. I knew this would happen, but is there anyway to slow them down to return to the stock speed ?
Cheers
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:11 pm
by Six Addict
when i changed the relay on my old cb250 they flashed faster with the more revs i had, i'd say this is your problem only you changed the system at the blinker end...it may be something to do with how the blinker talks to the relay switch
on the other hand as most people will attes to i have no idea what im talking about

but give it a go

Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:16 pm
by Saki
Yeah i get what ya saying. Im a real noob when it comes to this stuff. But from what i understand, there isn't enough "load" on the circuit which is why its flashing to fast. I have to install a something into the circuit to slow the rate of flashing. Because its gone from the globe which would draw more power than the little LED.
Re: indicator fast flashing

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Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:21 pm
by Disco
Are you sure 1 of the globes isn't blown?Mine flashed faster when it blew a globe.Just a thought....
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:45 pm
by Wattie
leds draw less power, so it flashes fast just liek when one is blown..
you need a resister thing... where's dave3??

Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:49 pm
by Six Addict
resistor... thats the word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:57 pm
by dutchy
load resistor is the exact name. i was told i needed one wired behind each indicator but got away with having one for each side. you can order them through auto elects or anyone that sells l.e.d. lights/indicators. i got mine from a trailer manufacturer here in maryborough. mine cost $15 each but you can get them cheaper on ebay i think.
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:58 pm
by kaneg
DISCO wrote:Are you sure 1 of the globes isn't blown?Mine flashed faster when it blew a globe.Just a thought....
what he said

Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:59 pm
by 6maniac
The average resistance of a 21 watt indicator lamp is 6.8 ohms - LED indicator resistance is 3/5 of FA. So each LED indicator needs a 6.8 ohm resistor in series with it so that the electrical circuit resembles the original setup.
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productResults ... rm=KEYWORD
Re: indicator fast flashing

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Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:15 pm
by Tack
Your using the wrong blinker fluid....here's some instructions.
http://www.geocities.com/changeyourblinkerfluid/
Re: indicator fast flashing

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Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:18 pm
by Rossi
dutch80au wrote:load resistor is the exact name. i was told i needed one wired behind each indicator but got away with having one for each side. you can order them through auto elects or anyone that sells l.e.d. lights/indicators. i got mine from a trailer manufacturer here in maryborough. mine cost $15 each but you can get them cheaper on ebay i think.
Much easier to go to Repco or Autobarn and get an electronic flasher relay......... about $16 from memory
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:24 pm
by Rossi
I found this in my PM box I sent to Dave #3 I think it was
Repco
I used a Narva PART No. 68212BL
But it's basically a 12V 2pin electronic flasher relay........try and get someone over the age of 12 to serve you
The electronic relay will flash at the same rate no matter what the load is. Different resistance? Not a problem. Burnt out Bulbs here and there, no matter it will still flash at the same rate. That's why the electronic relay is so nice, you don't have to worry about what kind of load someone is putting on it, it's a fixall.
Another two that would be suitable are both made by Tridon. The standard model (part #Tridon 552, $3.00) says "variable load, 12Volt, 2 terminal, 4 lamp capacity" The other model (part #Tridon EL-12, $7.00) says "variable load, 12Volt, 2 terminal, 10 lamp capacity, extended life, lasts 10 times longer than thermal relays." Basically it appears that the only difference is that the black relay can handle more lamps at once.
Re: indicator fast flashing

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Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:31 pm
by 6maniac
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:22 pm
by Saki
yeah thanks guys, thats pretty much what i thought it was also, i knew i needed to put "something" in the circuit and that was the resistor!!
I might go check out jaycar or watever and see if they got any ideas!
Not sure if i wanna keep this indicator setup as they are a bit small and inconspicuous but is good for the discreet look!
Re: indicator fast flashing

Posted:
Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:36 pm
by dutchy
Rossi wrote:dutch80au wrote:load resistor is the exact name. i was told i needed one wired behind each indicator but got away with having one for each side. you can order them through auto elects or anyone that sells l.e.d. lights/indicators. i got mine from a trailer manufacturer here in maryborough. mine cost $15 each but you can get them cheaper on ebay i think.
Much easier to go to Repco or Autobarn and get an electronic flasher relay......... about $16 from memory
i tried this and failed due to the way a single indicator dash lamp works. the globe system apparently earths back out through the opposite, unused indicator to complete the circuit and flash the dash lamp (if there is only one dash lamp for both indicators like my zx7r). because my leds could only run power in one direction the earth cannot return to the earthing point and an led flasher can does not compensate for this. installing load resistors parallel to the led indicators not only adds to the draw off the flasher can to activate the regular flasher but also allows an earth through for the opposing indicator to light the dash lamp......i think!
i only say "i think" because i did mine a while ago and i might not be remembering all the details, or, i might not be remembering them properly.
