Why is it so????

[tape]

Prob. a stupid Question but....

Whilst in out of gear on centre stand warming the old beastie up, the back wheel was trying to spin albeit just about an inch or 2 each throttle twist.

Can ye of greater knowledge care to explain this to me...

Cheers

Oh and nearly got my knee down on a straight road before it was that windy....LOL

[ty]

Mine does that all the time - spins a bit faster than you describe sometimes actually.
Even though you're out of gear the engine spinning still creates friction through the oil in the gear box causing the back wheel to spin a bit.
That's all (I believe)
ty

[Quarkz]

Both my bikes do it. Normal I guess

[SeanZX9R]

My ol 9r did that, was good for cleaning the chain, easier. But the 10 dont do it

[Mizz ZZR]

Its called vibration that's makin it happen. You'll notice it'll spin faster if the choke is on....

[Ratmick]

Its called vibration that's makin it happen. You'll notice it'll spin faster if the choke is on....

I have to partially agree with Kaz and mostly with TY, it's the viscosity of the oil dragging the clutch plates around AND it will do it faster when your choke is on.

It's mainly to do with both the oil being a bit thicker when it's cold AND the faster idle (when the choke is on).

Phew, out of breath now

*** Does this make more sense Brett?

[Nanna10r]

Ok now i m confused a whole lot .....

Firstly whats a Centre Stand ? ......
Secondly Who was right ?. Ty or Karen ?.
Thridly so its the Box friction or a Vibration ?.
Fourthly is there a third otpion to confuse me even more so ?.
Fifthly why does Jibbers shop more then any man I've ever met ?.
Sixthly how do i end this before i get to Fortyeightly ?.
Seventhly is that actually how you spell Eightly ?
Eightly shit i know thats spelt wrong .... anyone ?


Cheers Brett

[Quarkz]

Eighthly?

[Smitty]

Ok now i m confused a whole lot .....

Firstly whats a Centre Stand ? ......

a thing free from Kwika that comes with ya bike
that allows you to oil the chain... and practice 6th gear burnouts.....

Secondly Who was right ?. Ty or Karen ?.

right? left? wrong?
not even gunna buy into that one

Thridly so its the Box friction or a Vibration ?.

theres always a fraction too much friction

Fourthly is there a third otpion to confuse me even more so ?.

ain't these enuff?? you want more???

Fifthly why does Jibbers shop more then any man I've ever met ?.

he earns too much

Sixthly how do i end this before i get to Fortyeightly ?

that is not a nice question
although you could copy or emulate or do the same as neka....
ummm...maybe notly, i am really surely it hurts

Seventhly is that actually how you spell Eightly ?

really frankly notly...

Eightly shit i know thats spelt wrong .... anyone ?

someone? noone???
alright, it is spelt 'eigth'...ok? roflmao

Cheers Brett

and I will have a drink anytime with you too!

cheers

[Nanna10r]

Mate i havent had a drink since PI "thanks Reecie" so i cant blame the grog. But Yoda for Chrisakes stop messing with me Head.
Neither my scoots have a center stand ? you didnt even give me the correct spelling n as for the rest only bit i understood was about Jibbers being RICH "aswell" ..... Bastard.
This aint funny guys I really need some closure on this stuff I can see I'm gonna be Tossin' all night ..... oh .... n turning as well.
Cheers Brett

[Smitty]

Brett
just in jest mate
so
no centre stand?... your bikes were deprived, just about everything these days has 'em, serious!
the wheel spin from tape....?
mate, its the oil in the clutch/gearbox moving the innards
which moves the output shaft and so the chain moves etc etc
the oil is 'sticky' enough for that to happen (and partly the reason
for our 1st gear clunk...remember that post?)
Ratmick was right when he spoke about the viscosity of the oil causing this to happen
and its not vibration, afaik
and for Kaz, it happens more with the choke, coz the engine is going faster
so the input chain to the clutch is going faster, so the rear wheel goes faster
and
48?
two before fifty...?? spelt -
forty eight...mate
and I know
coz i am two ...
two before 50 that is !!

cheers

[Nanna10r]

Ok seriously ........ nah i cant do it sorry.
Focus ........ hmmmmmmm .

Ok. Ian mate, less bikes have centrestands now then ever imo, if it says sport it dont have a centrestand anymore, which reminds me do the z750 n z1000 have em ?. I know all tourers do as in the Mighty ZZR range.

As for the rear wheel turning i thought the Oil Viscocosisoty drag thing was correct so its not vibration although vibration may play a part its not the cause, correct ?.

Lastly i can spell Forty Eight but that was not the question, as i wanted the past tense as in; four is too Forth, fourteen is too fourteenth. Do that too 48 n youve got the answer n no using numbers you crafty old force wielding Ninja Smoking Beemer Mechanicing Mexi can Pie Eating PC Puncher you.
Cheers Brett

[Ratmick]

Ok. Ian mate, less bikes have centrestands now then ever imo, if it says sport it dont have a centrestand anymore, which reminds me do the z750 n z1000 have em ?. I know all tourers do as in the Mighty ZZR range.

I don't think the current Z Bikes have them, or if they do they're bloody well hidden.

My current Desktop piccie on my PC is a Green US Z1000, no centre stand, and the AMCN Desktop wallpaper pics of the Z750 don't show one either. I know they get in the way of good cornering angles, but they are really handy.

[Nanna10r]

Thanks Mick .
Cheers Brett

[Smitty]

Ok. Ian mate, less bikes have centrestands now then ever imo, if it says sport it dont have a centrestand anymore, which reminds me do the z750 n z1000 have em ?. I know all tourers do as in the Mighty ZZR range.

just checked the 2004 Kwika brochure...
and nope
not on the Z1000, z750 Zx12r Zx6r or Zx10r
funny
all the bikes I have had, have centre stands...

cheers