Worth doing?

[EVOSTi]

Reason I asked about shock treatment is Wallacia isn't too far from where I live, and Terry did my steering dampener so is the only contact I have with a suspension expert. But Lidcome isn't a problem either so I might give Zenodamper a call.

I have read on a US forum that alot of guys are unhappy with the rear shock and upgrade to Ohlins or Penske. I Don't know if at my level thats needed, but being that this bike is the only one I've ridden in anger maybe I don't know what I'm missing out on suspension wise, cause obviously it's what feels normal to me.

[Nelso]

Your level of riding wouldn't justify the expense of an Ohlins or Penske to be honest. Blurr has done 1:38's on his Zeno treated standard suspension so I think you will be fine with that option. I have ridden his bike and it handles extremely well; way better than I expected it to. My advice is to go to Zeno first and if you want a bit more poke out of the engine, drop a tooth on your front sprocket. After that, spend all of your money on track days and practice.

[EVOSTi]

I will definately give him a call. Like I mentioned I have no complaints with the suspension now, but If someone can even adjust what I already have that could only be a good thing.
FWIW I already have gone down one on the front and up two on the rear sprockets, slip on, x-tre, and a quicker turn throttle.

Sorry to the OP for the hijack

[MAXUMIS]

Just remember mate he is riding his bike Not anyone else(each to there own)

Couldn't agree more. That's why all I can do is to give him my ADVICE... if I had the option, I'd give him an order tough! hahahahaha

Seriously though, I have the same bike and I did most 'more power' mods on it so unlike most times, I'm not talking out of my arse here. Suspension is what really gives you the best lap times on this bike.

I knew that even before I bought all the stuff like full exhaust and whatnot but it doesn't matter how much you plan, life will always have the final saying. And when I was offered a full exhaust and a few other bits and pieces for what I considered to be VERY cheap if I bought it all together, I decided to put the suspension on the back burner for a while.

After installing everything, the thing that stood out the most was that the OEM shock is now struggling even more than it did before... Sure, it has more power and that's always fun but if I had to choose ONE THING to do on the ZX6R, suspension would be it. And if I could choose more than one, I'd also start with it!

I understand now mate! I thought the mod would have made at least 8 to 10 hp more but if there's only 2 to 4 hp i can understand there not being much gain ! PS thanks for the info life is a learning leason

[EDU]

The full exhaust + filter if properly mapped probably yield something close to 10hp I think... but in the end you need a better shock to be able to harness that properly.

[MAXUMIS]

The full exhaust + filter if properly mapped probably yield something close to 10hp I think... but in the end you need a better shock to be able to harness that properly.

true mate!

[2010zx6r]

Firstly.....thanks guys for all your input on this subject.
I've decided to give up trying to chase further hp and concentrate further on how the bike handles as many have suggested.
So I have spoken with Steve Mudford as pointed out by Dave in this thread...thanks. Steve was great and pointed out why my bike handles the way it does. It was good to hear this. Basically the bike needs new springs suited to my weight and unfortunately the oem springs are suited for someone well below my weight of 83kg. So even if you try and adjust it all, the bikes geometry will still be out due to springs. Then there's the issue of revalving the front forks also. This was thrown up as another potential upgrade that I could do now or later. Problem was if I did later there would be further costs, so I have decided to do also. Also I have read about steering damper on my bike, which does nothing. Decided to do also. So Steve has my bike now and hopefully should get bike back no later than Saturday. I'm looking forward to it so much. Yes a little expensive but not as much as I was looking at spending on exhaust and PCV.

[EDU]

How much and what is he doing to your damper if you don't mind sharing?

[Jonnymac]

Hmmmm wondered if that was your bike there when I dropped mine off yesterday......
Need to see what exactly has been done internally to mine and what needs to be upgraded to suit me. At the very least it will be a new rear spring as the original is still in it and I'm 90kgs!!!

[2010zx6r]

Hi
Steering damper is getting revalved also as OEM basically does nothing. $80
Front and rear ohlins springs fitted $700
Ohlins front fork revalve $600
That's ride and ride out price with bike totally adjusted for my body weight.

I thought a little pricey at first, but when you think about what I was willing to pay just to gain a few extra hp, it was worth it. And the gains in handling should be amazing which will just improve my confidence on the bike.

[EVOSTi]

I've also had my steering dampener redone, difference is night and day. Apparently the only difference internally to an aftermarket Ohlins is there is a hole in the valve to let fluid throguh making it weaker than aftermarket. This hole is soldered up and the dampener now works as it should.

[EDU]

Thanks for the info. I might get my damper done at some point just for peace of mind. To be honest it doesn't bother me much even though it really isn't doing anything. I'm ok with a few headshakes here and there and I haven't found myself out of control because of that. Yet! hahaha
Will see if I can get someone local to do that for me then.

[born green]

Hi guys..

Good to hear u have spoken to steve.. and no i dont get kickbacks mmm maybe i should have a chat to him
U wont regret the money spent, u will notice it at the track..
The steering damper upgrade is great, maybe u wont notice it at broady so much, over the hump on the back straight prob, but at P/I u will notice a huge difference...

But as i said a few times, he is the best , and who has worked on my bike, not knocking the other guys, he just at a different level.. and to 2010zx6r, once u have got to know ur bike and setup, and are more than happy with it, then u can go chasing more power if u wish.. a well setup 6 will do flat 60's around broady anyway, so u got plenty to play with...

Now u just got to get up there and try it out
Jonny, what are u getting done?

[Jonnymac]

Apparently the guy I bought it off had the internals revalved front and rear and ohlins springs in the front by motologic (which by the way I have no reason not to believe)
But the rear spring hasn't been changed ¿? Which is strange especially after talking to Steve he kind've doesn't care what it's doing at the moment as he is basically saying the bikes unbalanced. So it's almost irrelevant what it's doing as it wont be a correct indication of what's happening.

So long story short he is pulling it apart seeing what's been done, making sure its correct for me and replacing he rear spring with something more suited. He also said due to the BPF it's difficult to set the sag and anyone who does it the traditional method is doing it wrong. You actually need to know where the top of the spring is inside the forks and it should have ohlins top out springs in it too.

I guess I'll know soon

[born green]

Apparently the guy I bought it off had the internals revalved front and rear and ohlins springs in the front by motologic (which by the way I have no reason not to believe)
But the rear spring hasn't been changed ¿? Which is strange especially after talking to Steve he kind've doesn't care what it's doing at the moment as he is basically saying the bikes unbalanced. So it's almost irrelevant what it's doing as it wont be a correct indication of what's happening.

So long story short he is pulling it apart seeing what's been done, making sure its correct for me and replacing he rear spring with something more suited. He also said due to the BPF it's difficult to set the sag and anyone who does it the traditional method is doing it wrong. You actually need to know where the top of the spring is inside the forks and it should have ohlins top out springs in it too.

I guess I'll know soon

Yer, funny he wasnt to interested in setting sags on mine to much, he just set it up on the day..
He did a lot of work to my forks to, took out one of top out spring, and marchined a spacer for one side, he explained why.. mine is now comp on the right, rebound on the left, and the old comp adjuster's on the bottom, now have another fuction all together... he may do simlar to ur's as well....
So are u going to come up next weekend and try it out?