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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Glen » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:46 am

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wullieb1 wrote:I just done mine from empty lines and let me tell you its shit.

Took me about 2 days to get to a point where i had some brake pressure. Still needs to be bled again to hopefully get them a little better.


this is why im asking for advice/help :lol: i read your thread
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Suction is your friend. Fill the reservoir, open the bottom bleed nipple, whack a long piece of tube on and suck the fluid through. I reckon I can drain and rebleed my brakes in about 30 mins flat
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Wattie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:53 am

Glen wrote:
Six Addict wrote:
wullieb1 wrote:I just done mine from empty lines and let me tell you its shit.

Took me about 2 days to get to a point where i had some brake pressure. Still needs to be bled again to hopefully get them a little better.


this is why im asking for advice/help :lol: i read your thread
.

Suction is your friend. Fill the reservoir, open the bottom bleed nipple, whack a long piece of tube on and suck the fluid through. I reckon I can drain and rebleed my brakes in about 30 mins flat



the suck method works....

the longer the piece of rubber hose the less chance you got of drinking fluid :lol:
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby craig » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:16 pm

and don't forget to top up the reservoir as you go......... or you'll be doing it forever as it sucks air into the master cylinder :lol:
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Six Addict » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:24 pm

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Strika wrote:The ignition bolts are security bolts so will be a little fiddly to remove mate. last I did one, I drilled a small pilot hole and then used an easy out (reverse threaded drill bit essentially) to remove the bolt tubes.

All you need for the brake refill, is to get a one way valved bleeding tool. It can be done one manned, but it's a slow process!

For the grips, use grip glue. Or whatever rubber glue you have. If you have a compressor, use that with the thin air nozzle to remove and refit the grips. You blow air into the side of them, between the inside of the grip and the outside of the handlebars and it forms and air cushion which the grips just slide over like a finger in a bum!


Like Marty said Pinchy.

I got my ignition bolts out with an easy out. If you have to buy them they're about $75 a set. I've got a set if you want to borrow them though. Undo everything and flip it over up on the steering stem, brace it somehow and drill your holes, make sure you've got a sharp drill bit. The easy out set I have has matching sized drill bits. Use the biggest size easy out that will fit otherwise you might snap the bugger.

If you don't have a compressor a good little trick to get grips off is to get a screw driver up between the grip and the bar as far as you can and spray some wd40 up there along side the screwdriver. Twist it around a bit and off it comes. Make sure you clean the WD off the grip before you put it back on though.


bugger, this is sounding less like a "do it in my carport" kinda job :x
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Blurr » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:56 pm

it's really easy Pinchy. your making a mountain out of a molehill. The only thing you may have trouble with is the security bolts on the switchblock. All the rest is basic stuff that you would cover in a home service.

Just bleed the MC first at the banjo bolt then the fluid will travel straight down the new lines fairly easily by bleeding each caliper.

The grip will come off by using a small screwdriver as Glen said that the soaked in WD40. Clean the WD off the grip and put it back on. I use hairspray for the tracky grips as they stick well but it is not as permanent as the glue.

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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Blurr » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:56 pm

it's really easy Pinchy. your making a mountain out of a molehill. The only thing you may have trouble with is the security bolts on the switchblock. All the rest is basic stuff that you would cover in a home service.

Just bleed the MC first at the banjo bolt then the fluid will travel straight down the new lines fairly easily by bleeding each caliper.

The grip will come off by using a small screwdriver as Glen said that the soaked in WD40. Clean the WD off the grip and put it back on. I use hairspray for the tracky grips as they stick well but it is not as permanent as the glue.

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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Six Addict » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:59 pm

Blurr wrote:it's really easy Pinchy. your making a mountain out of a molehill. The only thing you may have trouble with is the security bolts on the switchblock. All the rest is basic stuff that you would cover in a home service.

Just bleed the MC first at the banjo bolt then the fluid will travel straight down the new lines fairly easily by bleeding each caliper.

The grip will come off by using a small screwdriver as Glen said that the soaked in WD40. Clean the WD off the grip and put it back on. I use hairspray for the tracky grips as they stick well but it is not as permanent as the glue.

Too easy ,stop fretting


im only fretting about the security bolts mate... i know the rest i can do...
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Wattie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:22 pm

all im picturing is that dude that fitted a fender eliminator to his bike with a drill. (from underneath) :lol:
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Six Addict » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:38 pm

haha nice one...
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby Glen » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:26 am

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Blurr wrote:it's really easy Pinchy. your making a mountain out of a molehill. The only thing you may have trouble with is the security bolts on the switchblock. All the rest is basic stuff that you would cover in a home service.

Just bleed the MC first at the banjo bolt then the fluid will travel straight down the new lines fairly easily by bleeding each caliper.

The grip will come off by using a small screwdriver as Glen said that the soaked in WD40. Clean the WD off the grip and put it back on. I use hairspray for the tracky grips as they stick well but it is not as permanent as the glue.

Too easy ,stop fretting


im only fretting about the security bolts mate... i know the rest i can do...


With the right tools Pinchy the security bolts are easy. When are you thinking of hitting it? I can probably drop over with the easy outs and a drill on Saturday morning.
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby tomithy » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:12 pm

You probably don't need more hints for refilling brake lines, but FWIW you can get a big plastic syringe from SuperCheap that you can use to suck the fluid through via the bleed nipple. Saves you from having DOT 4 in your lungs :lol:

They're sold as 2 stroke mixing syringes, and cost $4 from memory.

Can't help you with the ignition bolts, never done that before :?
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby mike-s » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:17 pm

ive heard that hairspray is good for holding the grip on and easily releases when you want to remove them.
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Re: a few techy questions

Postby adge82 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:59 pm

mike-s wrote:ive heard that hairspray is good for holding the grip on and easily releases when you want to remove them.


Ive used the hairspray method, works a treat. Grip glue is marginally better though, doesnt smell like hairspray.
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